Disillusioned with Football £££

BrianW said:
United fans can't even get the Glazers out of Old Toilet despite breaking the law on several occasions.

The Superleague was unpopular with the Establishment, including Johnson's government, which saw another chance to gain easy popularity. (I doubt Johnson really gives a shit whether football lives or dies or changes to 15 a side.)

Going against the Establishment is a very different matter, and some very rich men have grown very much richer since the PL was formed. Unless fans are willing literally to boycott the game entirely - which they aren't - any changes we influence will be quite minimal.

We pay the players what we do because otherwise, they would bog off to another league. It may look like stupid money - it is - but theirs is a very rare skill. Pretty much all of us have kicked a ball at some point, but I guess maybe 1% are up to playing at a decent level and maybe there are 0.1% who are good enough to play for this iteration of City. There's a reason why Kevin de Bruyne plays for us, and not for Real Madrid on the one hand or Prestwich Heys on the other. It's not that he was born on Claremont Road or spent his boyhood on the Kippax. We make it worth his while. He could play for any side in the world if he wanted. We give him a package that suits him and (presumably) he's happy at City. Cut his wage and it's a pound to a pinch of shit he would walk. If only because someone else would offer more.
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Your last bit is so true. Tickles me when i hear “£200k a week for kicking a bag of wind about”.

I played at a standard that was probs a level below being paid. Very good amateur standard.
That next level up, semi pro, even the lower reaches of semi pro, was a humongous leap. And so on.
I played with a lad who had played prem football, he was 40 at this point and it was like playing with pele. He was light years ahead of us in every way

So when people question their salaries, they have a talent that a minuscule amount of people on earth have.

Just like well paid actors and pop stars.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Your last bit is so true. Tickles me when i hear “£200k a week for kicking a bag of wind about”.

I played at a standard that was probs a level below being paid. Very good amateur standard.
That next level up, semi pro, even the lower reaches of semi pro, was a humongous leap. And so on.
I played with a lad who had played prem football, he was 40 at this point and it was like playing with pele. He was light years ahead of us in every way

So when people question their salaries, they have a talent that a minuscule amount of people on earth have.

Just like well paid actors and pop stars.
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True what you say regarding their talent. I suppose the difference is with other star’s people aren’t kind of following something in a cultish way every week like fans do with football teams. So the working class original fan bases continue to be ripped off as the salaries and tv money get more ridiculous. Just the way it is though unfortunately.
 
Craig said:
True what you say regarding their talent. I suppose the difference is with other star’s people aren’t kind of following something in a cultish way every week like fans do with football teams. So the working class original fan bases continue to be ripped off as the salaries and tv money get more ridiculous. Just the way it is though unfortunately.
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Agree with that , lots being priced out. And when u consider that ticket sales are a drop in the ocean compared to tv money, thats a disgrace

Its my one complaint about our owners
 
The matchday experience is morphing in to one you may encounter at the theatre or an NFL game which we don't f*cking need. Going to the games was a regular social event for many local fans but it's now being forced in to a luxury. Whilst in some respects it's for the better in that there's less violence but for local families who aren't rich it's becoming less accessible. Demand from tourists is pushing up ticket prices, for one game a year these tourists can afford £80+ tickets and to spend a fortune in the club shop. This amount isn’t sustainable for locals fans who've supported a club for years and are wanting to attend regularly.
 
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BlueMoonday said:
The matchday experience is morphing in to one you may encounter at the theatre or an NFL game which we don't f*cking need. Going to the games was a regular social event for many local fans but it's now being forced in to a luxury. Whilst in some respects it's for the better in that there's less violence but for local families who aren't rich it's becoming less accessible. Demand from tourists is pushing up ticket prices, for one game a year these tourists can afford £80+ tickets and to spend a fortune in the club shop. This amount isn’t sustainable for locals fans who've supported a club for years and are wanting to attend regularly.
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And in all honesty, who do think the club would prefer to sell the tickets to? You, or a tourist who as you say, will pay a fortune for a ticket, and then drop £200 in the club shop without blinking an eye. The club aggressively promotes tourism / hospitality at the direct expense of the legacy fans and have done for years now. They really couldn't give give a fuck if you or me never went to the Etihad again. That's the reality of it, and it is only going in one direction.
 
PPT said:
And in all honesty, who do think the club would prefer to sell the tickets to? You, or a tourist who as you say, will pay a fortune for a ticket, and then drop £200 in the club shop without blinking an eye. The club aggressively promotes tourism / hospitality at the direct expense of the legacy fans and have done for years now. They really couldn't give give a fuck if you or me never went to the Etihad again. That's the reality of it, and it is only going in one direction.
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I know pal, they would sell to a tourist every time. I completely get it. My only slight argument would be is that the ticket revenue would be dwarved by income from global sponsorship, so as a whole how much difference is it making to the balance sheet? I understand we need to be doing this for FFP etc.

I'm making a general observation that, if you haven't got an ST then the matchday experience now is very expensive. Prices are comparable to going to see a very good rock band who may only tour every 2 or 3 years. I view the experience completely different to how it used to be, does it feel different? No, just paying a lot more for it these days.
 
BlueMoonday said:
I know pal, they would sell to a tourist every time. I completely get it. My only slight argument would be is that the ticket revenue would be dwarved by income from global sponsorship, so as a whole how much difference is it making to the balance sheet? I understand we need to be doing this for FFP etc.

I'm making a general observation that, if you haven't got an ST then the matchday experience now is very expensive. Prices are comparable to going to see a very good rock band who may only tour every 2 or 3 years. I view the experience completely different to how it used to be, does it feel different? No, just paying a lot more for it these days.
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You’re right that it doesn’t make a huge difference to the balance sheet. The problem is the club is run by rich twats who couldn’t give a fuck about our working class fan base. They’ve now taken even more away tickets from the fans for the corporate club.
 
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