Disillusioned with Football £££

If you can't stomach it, walk away. If you still want football, support Maine Road or Droylesden.

We are where we are, and we ain't going back, and as long as large numbers of people (not necessarily from the UK) support the PL and spend money on its product, the model is not going broke.

Whether you like it or not (and there are tons of things I wish were different) we are not going to change it. At least not to any significant extent.
If we weren’t able to change things, we might currently be gearing up for the first season of the European Super League.

We are more than able to change things. We should work together to change more things.
 
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Is anybody else feeling completely disillusioned with the way football is at the moment?

If I'm honest, it isn't going to stop me watching it, or being a fan - but I think the money involved is just totally unacceptable. Especially when you consider what is happening in the real-world that we all live in (mortgages/rent shooting up, people can't afford food or heating, people living on the street).

The money footballers receive has been daft for a long time. £10,000 a week, then turned into £100,000 a week, which has then turned into £200,000 - £300,000 a week becoming the norm for a top players salary (this is before their contracts with Nike/Adidas etc). But now (though he is unlikely to go there) Mbappe has been offered £1.9m A DAY, to go and play in Saudi Arabia! £58m a month! It is just not right, and they shouldn't be allowed to even offer it. If the Saudi's have that sort of money available to just give away, why aren't they doing something good with it in the world!? Instead of giving it a footballer. All they are paying for is his name and image - at £1.9m a day, where is the incentive for him to actually play well?

Transfer fees don't bother me too much (though they are ridiculous too) but at least they stay in the football system for a while and the money gets passed down to the lower leagues eventually. But, I guess it still ends up in the players pockets in the end!

I went to watch Manchester Giants Basketball last year, and couldn't believe how good the players were after the game. Kids were allowed onto the court to have their photo taken with the players - who were more than happy to hang around and do so. In football, the players are ushered off by Security and you have to hang around for 1-2 hours after a game if you wanted to see them, and even then there is a barrier and security - and the best you can do is wave at them.

I even had to unfollow all the City players on Instagram over the last few weeks as I couldn't bear to look at the photos and videos they posted of them hiring luxury yachts for a week, or staying in huge Villas without a care in the world for how much it actually costs - whilst I'm sat at home getting anxious about my mortgage going up a few hundred quid a month.

I know I'm ranting - and I completely appreciate that for them to earn this amount of money they also have to train and work very hard, and accept being scrutinised by thousands of people every week, and have very little privacy when they step out of their house etc. But, I still don't think this warrants the amount of money they receive.

I'm also probably jealous, and obviously wouldn't turn it down if it was offered to me - but I would certainly give away/do some good with a large part of it, because lets be honest, who really needs that much money per week? I'd give my right bollock to get £100k a year!
It's my escapism from real life at the moment. City have never been better.
 
I was just as excited as everybody else on this forum to have won the Treble - but like you say, it is just going to result in the players demanding bigger wages (I dread to think what their bonus was for winning 3 trophies - as if they need a f**king bonus)!

I do take comfort in the fact that I don't contribute penny toward it though! I can't afford to go to matches, I haven't bought a shirt since 2012, and I don't pay for Sky or BT Sport - I just give some random bloke £30 a year to subscribe to his dodgy firestick service!
So what if they got big bonuses, we won the treble.
 
United fans can't even get the Glazers out of Old Toilet despite breaking the law on several occasions.

The Superleague was unpopular with the Establishment, including Johnson's government, which saw another chance to gain easy popularity. (I doubt Johnson really gives a shit whether football lives or dies or changes to 15 a side.)

Going against the Establishment is a very different matter, and some very rich men have grown very much richer since the PL was formed. Unless fans are willing literally to boycott the game entirely - which they aren't - any changes we influence will be quite minimal.

We pay the players what we do because otherwise, they would bog off to another league. It may look like stupid money - it is - but theirs is a very rare skill. Pretty much all of us have kicked a ball at some point, but I guess maybe 1% are up to playing at a decent level and maybe there are 0.1% who are good enough to play for this iteration of City. There's a reason why Kevin de Bruyne plays for us, and not for Real Madrid on the one hand or Prestwich Heys on the other. It's not that he was born on Claremont Road or spent his boyhood on the Kippax. We make it worth his while. He could play for any side in the world if he wanted. We give him a package that suits him and (presumably) he's happy at City. Cut his wage and it's a pound to a pinch of shit he would walk. If only because someone else would offer more.
 
You can see the Saudis offering Pep
£10 million a week whilst they rip off the poor pilgrims from third world countries who can barely afford to put food on their plates. There is no moral compass to the Saudis exploits.
Napoli striker offered 1M a week. Crazy money for a player who’s not exactly world beater.
 
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From a City point of view football has never been better! I'd love us to spend spend spend...It's not my money!

Having said that, I don't like the way Sport is going in general. Whether it's Football, Golf, Boxing ect I think the likes of Boxing especially is more or less finished. I'm a massive Boxing fan and I absolutely hate it now.

Spence v Crawford happened just the weekend gone and there wasn't a word about it basically no build up to it yet they are two of the best pound for pound boxers in the world. There's more talk about Nate Diaz v Jake Paul ffs. I doubt we'll see any of the top two in any division fight anymore with all the money the Saudis are offering for Boxer v Youtuber ect.

Football hasn't gone that bad yet. I think it's safe to say Premier League games will be played abroad in the future. Football like other sports won't want to be left behind "moving with the times".
 
What goes around comes around. Seria A back in the day was depressing from the outside whilst watching the best players in the world perform on the same pitch. Fast forward and some prick or pricks will get to cocky and kill the golden goose, and the Premier League is full of pricks on the admin side. If the boss hadn't come along the cartel would have run it into the ground eventually.
As others have said, it's market forces and when the next big thing comes along, it will dominate the money. We as home team, attending fans have very little commercial influence in the great scheme of things, anyway.
I can understand being disillusioned if we are bottom of the pile, but we're not so enjoy it while you can and stop feeling guilty.
 
The world is full of obscene wealth. The world’s richest eight people have the same amount of wealth as the poorest 4 billion. Football is not unusual, you will find millionaires and billionaires in most industries when you’re scrutinising the top 0.1% of earners. The reason it irks you most in football is because it is in your face and you can’t avoid it.

Not to get too philosophical… but in this country we are also incredibly lucky and often don’t realise that we live in a life of relative wealth and stability. The average salary here is about 25x larger than in Uganda. I often wonder if they look at us and have the same notion we do of footballers. The growing wealth divide fractures across national boundaries, social class boundaries and ethnic boundaries.

Obviously, you’re quite rightly not thinking about all that when you’re trying to make ends meet and pay rent and put food on the table. And nor should you be.

My broader point is that this has been pitched as a football problem. It is not a football problem, it’s a natural consequence of our global system of economics which ordains that there are winners and losers. And how do you fix that? Well that’s a difficult question. There are policies to improve wealth equality and make the system work for us all but the political capital to do such things just doesn’t exist.

The biggest challenge we have is the globalisation of the rich, meaning that if they don’t like the policies in one country they just move to another (see Henderson moving to a country with 0% income tax). This makes action to redistribute wealth impossible unless it is something of a global effort.

So on one hand I see your point. On the other, footballers are low down for me in a long list of people non-deserving of their wealth. When they are 11 humans on a pitch, it doesn’t matter to me because they are excellent at what they do and they didn’t ask for there to be such a disparity, that came about naturally.
 

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