Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

It may even be a mainstream media conspiracy to silence him
I don't even get this argument. I used to watch him quite a bit on stuff. Think he's a good comedian. But I haven't heard anything from him in years, nor has anyone who's into mainstream stuff. They've seemingly already silenced him by simply not hiring him for about 10 years. This case is only more likely to bring what he's been doing for the past 10 years to more people. I find the "mainstream media is trying to cancel me" is a mainstay of comedians who are no longer flavour of the month.
 
Good post which I agree with.

I pretty much saw the documentary the same way. I do think at the end it was a bit of a call to action with the contact details for ‘if Brand abused you’…..

Is he guilty ? I’ve no idea, but it would be pretty difficult to prove without compelling evidence in each case….some of which sounded quite weak imo.

I remember the era of Brand quite well and he could literally fuck who he wanted, women were falling over themselves to sleep with him and his sexual addiction was well publicised. I think without a very strong body of evidence this doesn’t go anywhere…

Such as the woman who accused him of rape and they have records of her going to a rape centre in 2012 giving a detailed account?

The same woman also had a message verified to be from his phone number, where he was apologising for the night before?
 
This ****'s still going with his content. Still see him around town constantly.

Indeed I watched some of his daft content yesterday. You would have to be a proper imbecile to believe the shite he comes out with but that's his target audience.

Yeah he'd maybe had just a tad too much heroin at the time.

Yes he was on drugs but he was also chasing fame and attention, just like, for example, Mizzy.

The fact that he behaves inappropriately and pushes boundaries of behaviour even when sober suggests it wasn't really heroin that was the main factor.
 
Such as the woman who accused him of rape and they have records of her going to a rape centre in 2012 giving a detailed account?

The same woman also had a message verified to be from his phone number, where he was apologising for the night before?
By far the strongest evidence but I don’t understand why she didn’t/hasn’t gone to the police….
 
The entertainment industry is weird. We pay people to entertain us; to provide us with a service. but I think one the major problems with the entertainment industry as a whole is the way these that a lot of these front of house staff (aka presenters) are treated.

For a start they are referred to industry wide as 'the talent', and treated like some sort of rare, protected species. I just can't think of any other industry where the people we pay to provide us with goods and services are treated any differently than the rest of us, except perhaps professional sport (which also has it's issues). It's like paring a mechanic to fix your car and then rolling out the red carpet at the garage.

They are put on a pedestal and are treated as some kind of protected entity. "Mustn't upset the talent darling...", and it's not just the BBC, who are somewhat under the microscope, but the entertainment industry as a whole. It's absolutely toxic with someone like Brand whose whole personality centres around his massive ego. It seems like at every turn he was allowed to get away with more and more; things that would get most people sacked from any other job in the world.

I'm not absolving Brand of any blame here. He's absolutely at fault for his own behaviour, but those who allowed him to continue to get away with his abhorrent behaviour also bear some responsibility for what has happened. The MTV saga should have absolutely been the end of him in the industry, but instead of binning the cnut, he was given another high profile job, even though it seems that EVERYONE knew EXACTLY who he was.
 
Good post which I agree with.

I pretty much saw the documentary the same way. I do think at the end it was a bit of a call to action with the contact details for ‘if Brand abused you’…..

Is he guilty ? I’ve no idea, but it would be pretty difficult to prove without compelling evidence in each case….some of which sounded quite weak imo.

I remember the era of Brand quite well and he could literally fuck who he wanted, women were falling over themselves to sleep with him and his sexual addiction was well publicised. I think without a very strong body of evidence this doesn’t go anywhere…
I’d have thought the cases against Harris et al were probably harder to prove, evidence wise in that they were even longer ago.
 
Yes he was on drugs but he was also chasing fame and attention, just like, for example, Mizzy.

The fact that he behaves inappropriately and pushes boundaries of behaviour even when sober suggests it wasn't really heroin that was the main factor.

Oh I think he was fucked up well before the drugs but I'm sure they didn't help. Heroin's no joke and it's not the only thing he was on. I might be remembering this wrong but I think it was his dad who introduced him to drugs and prostitutes at a very young age. Not to mention he claimed to have been sexually abused when he was young.

None of these would be excuses for anything he might have done but they do help explain how he got to the point he was at.
 

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