Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[urban genie]

What I'm even more uncomfortable with, is how quickly we as a society turn allegations of a half famous person into yet another front of a culture war. The last dozen or so pages being a prime example.

Never liked him or his material, so never paid any real attention. For whatever reason, I thought he was 'left wing' 'anti-establishment'. But honestly never cared enough to really bother finding out any more. Now I read he is 'right wing' 'anti-establishment' and a conspiracy theorist.

Not that either is in any way relevant to his conduct or the allegations. But part of me thinks that it doesn'tmatter which side he falls on, the exact same arguements would be happening, in reverse, and completely bypassing the allegations themselves.

no one has said this that except Brand himself, painting it as a conspiracy to bring him down, also most of those defending him are right wing so an obvious link will be mentioned, no one is using it to politically idologically point score.

The only point being made is that from a long time libertarian stance (he was never left wing in the traditional sense) he suddenly shifted to a an alt right conspiracy theorist way of thinking, this could just be a by-product of the pandemic where many have gone full on NWO paranoia mode or as is suggested was a premeditated, intentional shift 3 years ago as appealing to the cranks on the right meant a narrative of an innocent man fighting a global cabal being censored could be framed if the allegations ever surfaced.

It isn't being used as a stick to beat one ideololgies of anothers virtue, brand has set himself up as a truthseeker and many are just questioning if it was for this situation alone to garner the support he has had from social media gimps and GBnews anchors

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Watching the doco now, fuck me he does come across as a vile creton in some of those old clips. How is making jokes during a standup about shoving your cock in someones throat and them choking considered 'a funny'?

 

[Blue Llama]

Never saw anything positive in him. I didn't find him funny or clever. He had his fans but you will always get people who will laugh at any outrageous comment if they have been told its funny. Emperors new clothes etc. He was a nasty piece of work at all times, his humour always had a victim and so it would seem his relationships.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

no one has said this that except Brand himself, painting it as a conspiracy to bring him down, also most of those defending him are right wing so an obvious link will be mentioned, no one is using it to politically idologically point score.

The only point being made is that from a long time libertarian stance (he was never left wing in the traditional sense) he suddenly shifted to a an alt right conspiracy theorist way of thinking, this could just be a by-product of the pandemic where many have gone full on NWO paranoia mode or as is suggested was a premeditated, intentional shift 3 years ago as appealing to the cranks on the right meant a narrative of an innocent man fighting a global cabal being censored could be framed if the allegations ever surfaced.

It isn't being used as a stick to beat one ideololgies of anothers virtue, brand has set himself up as a truthseeker and many are just questioning if it was for this situation alone to garner the support he has had from social media gimps and GBnews anchors

What right wing views does he hold?

I stopped paying attention to him a decade or so ago and so I have no idea but I'm interested to see if it goes beyond the way he markets himself.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

What right wing views does he hold?

I stopped paying attention to him a decade or so ago and so I have no idea but I'm interested to see if it goes beyond the way he markets himself.

It's not specifically that he 'outwardly' has right wing views in the traditional sense. It's more that he dances around the edges of things and has now gathered quite a large following within conspiracy and right wing groups. In literally all of his videos he questions people like Biden, Bill Gates and other people on the 'left' over and over and over again.

Yet on the other hand, I have literally not seen him put one iota of content out on say a Donald Trump for instance.

 

[urban genie]

What right wing views does he hold?

I stopped paying attention to him a decade or so ago and so I have no idea but I'm interested to see if it goes beyond the way he markets himself.

As stated he has framed his channel to alt right conspiracy theories and appeals to the fighting the system, free speech bolloclks.

Ideologically he is still a libertarian, but he is presently pushing right wing paranoid theories and conspiracies


Honestly though bar seeing it as a possibly ploy to use as a defence, none of this matters what does is the allegations, what his politics truly are is not important

 

[kenbelly]

Never saw anything positive in him. I didn't find him funny or clever. He had his fans but you will always get people who will laugh at any outrageous comment if they have been told its funny. Emperors new clothes etc. He was a nasty piece of work at all times, his humour always had a victim and so it would seem his relationships.

Agree with that, I don’t find him funny at all, he’s just a narcissist prick full stop, I watched the documentary last night, his behaviour in general is disgusting. You’ve got to blame the big TV companies too for employing him for so long.

 

[snorky]

Guilty, of being a talentless ****.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

As stated he has framed his channel to alt right conspiracy theories and appeals to the fighting the system, free speech bolloclks.

Ideologically he is still a libertarian, but he is presently pushing right wing paranoid theories and conspiracies


Honestly though bar seeing it as a possibly ploy to use as a defence, none of this matters what does is the allegations, what his politics truly are is not important

No, but his defenders are fraiming this as his political views being the reason for these allegations coming out. Rather than just taking them at face value.

 

[grunge]

Interesting rumours doing the rounds that he told mates over the years he was intentionally moved into this conspiracy theory world as he knew the accusations would come out eventually so moved to make it look like it’s the “deep state” against him because he’s “outing” them.