If we look at it the other way round & we were 16 points behind Guardiola's team, who had actually won more points during their recent 'struggling' period, with a whole bunch of injuries, than we did during the same period, what chances would this forum be giving us, of catching them ?
Only said that because there is more to come yet ;-)
I don't think we were being ironic then, just hopeful
In 2012 we didn't sing it until the end of the Newcastle game in 2014 until we scored the second against the far from happy hammers
And so I do think we should be singing about winning the league now, let's enjoy it for once.
I never drank in those days.If you and I entered into a pub debate on that....I would struggle to argue against that view haha.
Going lazy arsed is a big deal though. Happened under two title-winning managers. I don't think it will happen under Guardiola or Kevin de Bruyne but it will be a question mark until we see. Next season will also be influenced by how we end this. In CL disappointment, Cup disappointment or a triumphant season. We need an aura around Guardiola.Provided he players don't go lazy arsed on us like Chelsea, I can actually see huge room for improvement next season. We could actually go up a level this season when we get a full squad back (we will need to imo to compete in he CL, as we are missing too many great positions & letting in too many daft goals at the moment).
Imo we can't improve on KDB's contribution &I think it's actually unfair to expect him to maintain that level, every season. So he is fully entitled to be 'not quite as good' especially after a world cup. But Sterling, Sane, Jesus & even Aguero, are capable of much more (as we saw 2nd half with Serge yesterday) Laporte, Stones are capable of much more, if Bernard Mendy isn't an improvement on Delph, Zinchenko or Danilo, it would be something of a shock, Bernardo Silva is becoming the terrifying player we saw last season.
Maybe Mahrez (or similar) Fred, plus a host of kids here & loaned out.
One position: Fernadinho. Gundogan can't do his job & Fred can't win headers like he constantly does. That can't be ignored. Someone has to do it, if Fern isn't playing & he can't possibly keep this up at his age.
Sort that, & it just needs the players to continue putting in the same effort (which is tough). But in that case, with Pep running the show we are miles better than our rivals, whoever they sign, imo.
I was thinking that the other day.
For the last couple of seasons, there was a “We can still win the League” thread, that usually surfaced around February, and basically insisted that if we all believed, and didn't give up, then Leicester, or Chelsea, might suddenly lose 5 in a row.
I wonder how those people view the current situation.
Going lazy arsed is a big deal though. Happened under two title-winning managers. I don't think it will happen under Guardiola or Kevin de Bruyne but it will be a question mark until we see. Next season will also be influenced by how we end this. In CL disappointment, Cup disappointment or a triumphant season. We need an aura around Guardiola.
Another thing that helps immensely is the state of the rest of the Premier league.
I never drank in those days.
Only really started drinking before/after games following Schalke away!
Hahaha, a few stories to tell from that trip, starting with losing (?) my wallet with all my cash and cards on the plane overThat was a good drink.
Social media pressure from Rag mates is all too much for some and its always about being seen in the right light by some.
Playing the kids is another one and you can tell those getting it in the ear by txt or twitter etc a mile off with what they come out with on here.
You couldn’t be further from the truth because I'm not on any social media (this is as close as it gets) and my rag mates know better than to text about football. And my comments in the Yaya threads show I don’t give a fuck about fitting in.
I just think celebrating now is demeaning our players/managers efforts. They’ve worked their fucking bollocks off this season to put us in this position, by celebrating before the job is done it’s disrespectful of those efforts (in my mind). It’s like we’re saying you don’t need to bother now lads, take it easy, you’ve won it already. I’ll celebrate more than anyone but let’s get the job done first.
Good point that. I agree with it except for Stoke, I think we will beat them away. Everton is just such a weird away game for us. I would happy with a point away at Arsenal I think.Away games looking difficult with poor away form in the league:
Arsenal (1 win in 2 generations) prob drop 2 points
Stoke (hit and miss) prob drop 1.5 points
Everton (win every 5 years tops) prob drop 2 points
Spurs away (can be a real stinker) prob drop 2.5 points
Soton away last day (if we need points they may do to) prob drop 1.5 points.
They are the toughest 5 away WHU probably safe and done well there last season, 9.5 points average drop in the five. The homes games against united and chelsea are also potential point droppers, chelsea last team to win here, united at home last season was a very poor nil nil. I can see us dropping 13 or 14 points but it is whether the other teams can win all their games.