Do you support the RMT?

At one time there were four competing routes to London. In my lifetime there were still three. Now there's one, and due to the modern practice of completely closing the line every time someone as much as tightens a fishplate bolt, engineering work means we are effectively cut off from our capital, which is only 180 odd miles away. Back in the day there were also 'diversion routes' - the modern railway doesn't believe in such concepts.

Fucking crazy, but that's what happens when you keep 'saving money'. My theory is you never save a penny, you just transfer the cost to some other fucker.
 
Whilst I agree with a lot of RMT they have to be also realistic, and I think they are losing some public sympathy now. However I hope they get what they want eventually.
Most people are not getting pay rises, cost of living help or assistance from their employers. Most also don't have a trade union to help them. I have no increase no for over 2 years, I have to work several hours unpaid and I have 2 jobs. I have lots of gripes but I have to get on with it otherwise I would lose my job. I've always accepted this and sucked it up, others are the same. It seems the pandemic has made a lot of people bone idle.
 
Whilst I agree with a lot of RMT they have to be also realistic, and I think they are losing some public sympathy now. However I hope they get what they want eventually.
Most people are not getting pay rises, cost of living help or assistance from their employers. Most also don't have a trade union to help them. I have no increase no for over 2 years, I have to work several hours unpaid and I have 2 jobs. I have lots of gripes but I have to get on with it otherwise I would lose my job. I've always accepted this and sucked it up, others are the same. It seems the pandemic has made a lot of people bone idle.


There is a feeling that the union doesn't care if the public are with them or not, IMO they have drawn a line this Christmas and all the public can do is sit back and watch.
 
Yes but it's Joe Public who are suffering

And thats one of the things that they are trying to highlight with the strikes - when they go out the rail companies get subsidised for lost fares by the Govt - by you. me and all taxpayers pay them. So the irony is that the passengers lose out twice for a shitty service. All the rail unions are highlighting the fact that rail privatisation only has ever worked for the shareholders
 
And thats one of the things that they are trying to highlight with the strikes - when they go out the rail companies get subsidised for lost fares by the Govt - by you. me and all taxpayers pay them. So the irony is that the passengers lose out twice for a shitty service. All the rail unions are highlighting the fact that rail privatisation only has ever worked for the shareholders

Agreed.

And with an intransigent government handing over our money to the train operators to ensure they're not out of pocket, the RMT has no other option than to escalate the strike to maximum effect, which means disrupting the service when it hurts commuters the most. The gamble is which way will the public jump? In favour of the government in their battle against militant trade unions or against the government for not bringing this to an end.

I've no idea which way this will go, if I had to say I think the government will cave. The RMT membership seem pretty solid, while the government is anything but solid, besides, the Tories have the train operators to scapegoat if they cave.
 
Agreed.

And with an intransigent government handing over our money to the train operators to ensure they're not out of pocket, the RMT has no other option than to escalate the strike to maximum effect, which means disrupting the service when it hurts commuters the most. The gamble is which way will the public jump? In favour of the government in their battle against militant trade unions or against the government for not bringing this to an end.

I've no idea which way this will go, if I had to say I think the government will cave. The RMT membership seem pretty solid, while the government is anything but solid, besides, the Tories have the train operators to scapegoat if they cave.

Ambulance drivers are out on the 16th Dec now too. Christmas will be more fucked than it was at lockdown and look what that did for Johnsons popularity - I think its only a matter of time before they call a GE to lose to Labour and leave them to clean up the shite they have got us all into because clearly it is beyond this lot to fix anything
 

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