Do you think we are building up to World War 3?

I am sure that Trump will have it explained to him exactly why a pre-emptive nuclear strike on North Korea would not be the best idea...if indeed he doesnt know. He could of course have got the idea from Bill Clinton who actually had 2 B1bs (strategic heavy bombers) on route to Yangbyon to flatten the nuclear reactors until he was persuaded to call them back.



Why do you think Trump is a threat to world peace? Do you think that Hilary had the right idea about enforcing a no fly zone over Syria? If so please tell me how it would work and what the result would be?

Why? Because he has no experience in government, let alone foreign affairs, and absolutely no understanding of world politics and threats. And then you combine that with him being a maverick who is head-strong, egotistical, jingoistic and who doesn't listen.

Why would anyone NOT be worried by that? How could his set of attributes be MORE worrying? That is hard to imagine.
 
Why? Because he has no experience in government, let alone foreign affairs, and absolutely no understanding of world politics and threats. And then you combine that with him being a maverick who is head-strong, egotistical, jingoistic and who doesn't listen.

Why would anyone NOT be worried by that? How could his set of attributes be MORE worrying? That is hard to imagine.

I refer you to my previous posts regarding my views on him, I am not a fan of his and dont think the world is in a good place currently. I dont think he has any more or any less experience than any other first term president.

I ask you once again what could be more worrying than a president who places US troops and missiles on the border of Russia (Obamha) or one who would risk direct conflict with them in the Skies of Syria (Clinton) or indeed scramble bombers to bomb North Korea (bj bill)?
 
I ask you once again what could be more worrying than a president who places US troops and missiles on the border of Russia (Obamha) or one who would risk direct conflict with them in the Skies of Syria (Clinton) or indeed scramble bombers to bomb North Korea (bj bill)?

My answer is Donald Trump could be more worrying. Because unlike Obamha or Clinton, both of whom are considered, experienced politicians who seek and build concensus, Trump is not. The chances of Obama or Clinton doing something insane were small to nil. I cannot say the same about Trump.
 
My answer is Donald Trump could be more worrying. Because unlike Obamha or Clinton, both of whom are considered, experienced politicians who seek and build concensus, Trump is not. The chances of Obama or Clinton doing something insane were small to nil. I cannot say the same about Trump.

Clinton the first actually launched aircraft to bomb the DPRK is that not insane?

Obama is placing weapons and troops on the Russian border is this not insane?

Clinton the second was going to create an almost inevitable conflict with Russia in Syria insane maybe?

Trump may not be a nice guy, he may turn out to be insane however nothing he has said that he intends to do have come close to the three examples I have given. He champions better relations with Russia is that insane? No. He is prepared to say that there is a worldwide problem with immigration and Islamic expansionism is this not true? Is saying such a thing insane....or maybe denying it is insane, in my view its the latter one that is.

At least Trump is Trump and we know what kind of person he is, small comfort maybe, but fuck me I would rather and trust him more than ever the utter hypocrite and probable racist that is Obama, and as for Hilary who reckoned she was going to sort the world problems with love.....fuck me what is that all about.
 
Hypothetically, If Donald Trump on his first day in office ordered nuclear strikes on Russia and North Korea would the order have to be adhered to? Or could people tell him to fuck off and tie him to a chair until he calmed down?

I think congress would tell him to get bent. If He and Congress agree then yes, he probably could.
 
Clinton the first actually launched aircraft to bomb the DPRK is that not insane?

Obama is placing weapons and troops on the Russian border is this not insane?

Clinton the second was going to create an almost inevitable conflict with Russia in Syria insane maybe?

Links please.

1) Cant find anything about Bill Launching planes to bomb DPRK.

2) Nato are putting arms at Russian boarder, Not specifically the USA.

Its just far easier to fact check if links are supplied to back up comments like this.
 
I agree it is much different than the 80s, living close to Woodford as a child I got a good idea what it was all about when someone explained exactly what Vulcans were for and what they carried and why, as a result spent most of my youth shitting it and expecting mushroom clouds on a daily basis. I would not have been to pleased to have been told I would see Russian fighters over the same airfield just a few years later, I certainly wouldnt have believed that I would be sat in a Russian TU95 bear getting pissed up on vodka with the crew.

As for Threads I watched that again just a few weeks ago and its still scary. If you really want to destroy a good pair of undies do search and find the documentary "The brink of the apocalypse" which as well as having some good 80s music it covers alot of what was going on and I promise it will put the fear of god up you. It does cover the shooting down of the Korean airliner that you mention. When you watch it think back to what you were doing back in November 83 and think how completely oblivious you were to the fact we were potentially seconds away from a full blown nuclear war on account of some clouds over the American mid west.

I think now the threat is different, complacency greed and denial are the issues now that could push the world into global conflict. It only takes the global economy to collapse and the whole lot will go up.

Little wars can lead to big wars, even in Europe that danger gets bigger by the day, where despite the endless drivel spouted by the left wing and the pc brigade the ingredients for those small regional conflicts are added to on a daily basis. In ever so "modern" countries like France Germany and the UK societies are becoming more divided, the gaps between the have and have nots become wider, and those in authority seem completely out of touch, and interested only in themselves and their own.

It is very different to the 80s but in many ways just as dangerous if not more so, I dont think there is a feel of imminent world war right now, but I do believe thats exactly where we are heading and there would seem to be little sign that any of the worlds politicians have the slightest idea or inclination to change the course in which we are heading.

Yes I have read up on some of those near misses. Operation Able Archer and the Russian who ignored his screens telling him warheads were on the way and instead going with gut instinct.
It was a Norwegian Rocket launch or something which the Norwegians had forget to tell Anyone about!

The biggest threat for me currently is cyber based. People are getting more switched on to technology by the day and I am sure the hacking prevention teams have a round the clock job to stop this.

I remember watching War Games back in the day as a kid and thinking Christ this could actually really happen! Of course I was young and didn't know better but I think it's still a threat.
 
Links please.

1) Cant find anything about Bill Launching planes to bomb DPRK.

2) Nato are putting arms at Russian boarder, Not specifically the USA.

Its just far easier to fact check if links are supplied to back up comments like this.


I will have a look what I can find re the launch of the B1bs, I know what you are saying about "some bloke on the web" but on this occasion I can say you could take my word for it, the aircraft involved were B1b Lancers based at Dyass AFB Texas, I could bore you with what they were carrying too....not nuclear I should add. I wasnt the pilot before any smart arse chirps up, but I have on a few occasions had a beer with those who were B1 crew and have been on board several B1s (on the ground sadly, it would be a hell of a ride) and it was discussed openly. I think it was even covered in the mainstream press.

They were 2hrs from target when they were called back. They were called back due to the DPRK agreeing to shut down the reactors at the last minute. If my memory serves me right the two aircraft flew from Dyass to Diego Garcia where they were armed and set off to cause an unholy rumpus.

Your point regarding NATO is of course technically correct, but as I am sure you know as Putin knows other than the Yanks no member of NATO has any kit that would be worth putting there.
 

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