Does Mancini have the balls?

mcfc1632 said:
whatever the rights / wrongs - it is done

Ya Ya joined - he is our marquee signing - playing with his brother was a big aspect of his decision to join etc

You can bet that we will not be causing disturbance in that regard for any reason

anyway I think that Kolo might shine this year -I hope so - that means we have Lescott and Kompany rotating the left CB position - not abd position IMO

just please Bobby confirm that Boateng will be first choice RB - and Ned 2nd and my mum 3rd - just lots ahead of Micah please
My Auntie Elsie has just bought a new pair of boots too
 
we havent signed luiz but i hope we do because his the best cb in the world
 
looks like he means business..
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Forzacitizens said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
If Mancini had balls he'd have attacked the rags, Liverpool and Arsenal last season. Of the players we have it's clear that Kompany & Lescott are the best pairing.

what do you make of Mancini Prestwich? not convinced? would you still rather have Hughes in charge?
In some ways yes and in some ways no. Mancini has at least organised the defence, which Hughes seemed unable to do but we've lost the attacking flair we had. It's alright putting 6 past Burnley but we couldn't score a single goal (and barely mustered a shot) against Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, the rags or Everton.

There's lots I liked about Hughes but he wasn't the manager to take us to the top. however I'm not convinced Mancini is either but he should be given time.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Forzacitizens said:
what do you make of Mancini Prestwich? not convinced? would you still rather have Hughes in charge?
In some ways yes and in some ways no. Mancini has at least organised the defence, which Hughes seemed unable to do but we've lost the attacking flair we had. It's alright putting 6 past Burnley but we couldn't score a single goal (and barely mustered a shot) against Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, the rags or Everton.

There's lots I liked about Hughes but he wasn't the manager to take us to the top. however I'm not convinced Mancini is either but he should be given time.

You'll never win fek all attacking the way hughes did, especially in the prem, the side simply had no balance. I'd sooner have a man with the experience of bobby who has not only achieved already in the game but in my eyes shown up few who doubted....... he took a team as disjointed as you can get and in 21 games took us to the brink of champions league football, lets see how he does with 38, no doubt in my mind we'll finish top 4 and wouldn't at all surprise me if were still in the mix for the title come april.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
In some ways yes and in some ways no. Mancini has at least organised the defence, which Hughes seemed unable to do but we've lost the attacking flair we had. It's alright putting 6 past Burnley but we couldn't score a single goal (and barely mustered a shot) against Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, the rags or Everton.

There's lots I liked about Hughes but he wasn't the manager to take us to the top. however I'm not convinced Mancini is either but he should be given time.

You'll never win fek all attacking the way hughes did, especially in the prem, the side simply had no balance. I'd sooner have a man with the experience of bobby who has not only achieved already in the game but in my eyes shown up few who doubted....... he took a team as disjointed as you can get and in 21 games took us to the brink of champions league football, lets see how he does with 38, no doubt in my mind we'll finish top 4 and wouldn't at all surprise me if were still in the mix for the title come april.
No one could disagree that a team needs the right balance. The Rags have had it for a while and Ancelotti got it right at Chelsea last season. Hughes went too far one way and Mancini too far the other way. He's got the chance to start afresh this season and if he gets it right and we play to our potential then I'd agree with you. However saying he's proved the doubters wrong is way off the mark. There's a lot I speak to who are still nervous.
 
Getting abit worried about the bank of 3 defensive Mid's, it's hard to watch, and he seem's to be sticking to it.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
No one could disagree that a team needs the right balance. The Rags have had it for a while and Ancelotti got it right at Chelsea last season. Hughes went too far one way and Mancini too far the other way. He's got the chance to start afresh this season and if he gets it right and we play to our potential then I'd agree with you. However saying he's proved the doubters wrong is way off the mark. There's a lot I speak to who are still nervous.

That's my take exactly.

All this "He took a shit team and made it a good one" nonsense does not reflect the facts.

In terms of his results they were about the same as Hughes's overall.

But he worked in difficult circumstances and there were definitely significant mitigating circumstances, not least the unrest and uncertainty behind the scenes about who our manager would be next season.

He has a clean slate for me this season and I hope that this year he proves the doubters wrong.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
No one could disagree that a team needs the right balance. The Rags have had it for a while and Ancelotti got it right at Chelsea last season. Hughes went too far one way and Mancini too far the other way. He's got the chance to start afresh this season and if he gets it right and we play to our potential then I'd agree with you. However saying he's proved the doubters wrong is way off the mark. There's a lot I speak to who are still nervous.

That's my take exactly.

All this "He took a shit team and made it a good one" nonsense does not reflect the facts.

In terms of his results they were about the same as Hughes's overall.

But he worked in difficult circumstances and there were definitely significant mitigating circumstances, not least the unrest and uncertainty behind the scenes about who our manager would be next season.

He has a clean slate for me this season and I hope that this year he proves the doubters wrong.

the fact that Hughes experience as a prem manager is fair greater you hit the nail on the head, mancini made a mockery of this in 21 games, with a few mistakes I hasten to add, but still showing Hughes ability being that of a major level below. Also don't neglect the fact that not one of those players were his. I also don't believe the calibre of player we are pulling would be possible with Hughes at the helm...... The players, coaches and manager are all a major step up.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
No one could disagree that a team needs the right balance. The Rags have had it for a while and Ancelotti got it right at Chelsea last season. Hughes went too far one way and Mancini too far the other way. He's got the chance to start afresh this season and if he gets it right and we play to our potential then I'd agree with you. However saying he's proved the doubters wrong is way off the mark. There's a lot I speak to who are still nervous.

That's my take exactly.

All this "He took a shit team and made it a good one" nonsense does not reflect the facts.

In terms of his results they were about the same as Hughes's overall.

But he worked in difficult circumstances and there were definitely significant mitigating circumstances, not least the unrest and uncertainty behind the scenes about who our manager would be next season.

He has a clean slate for me this season and I hope that this year he proves the doubters wrong.

He certainly didn't take a shit team and make it a good one because we didn't have a shit team (It was a team with an extremely limited centre midfield though which was a huge problem), what he did do though was take a team who was slowly slipping down the table, who while were hard to beat were also hard to get beat off. When Hughes left we were 6th but for me that doesn't tell the whole story because we were getting worse and worse by the game apart from the Chelsea home game and my fear and i'm sure it was the same fear that the owners had that 4th place would soon be out of reach. When Mancini came in we'd won one of 11 leauge games, thats a terrible record for a team going for the top 4 and it's hard to snap out of so Mancini had to come in and get the team winning from the off and he did so but i'm sure we all understand that he made his fair share of mistakes and ultimately he failed in his goal to get the team to 4th place albeit at the expence of a team who had a superb second half to the season all things considered

There will be doubters, some things people doubt are fair enough, others things people doubt him about are a little strange but he's now had a summer with the squad and brought in some excellent players and we'll see in this coming season how he handles it
 

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