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A denuclearisation agreement and secured peace with NK, that no one has achieved in generations.

You can bury your head in the sand if you like and call it as fake news but you’ll only make yourself look an idiot.

We'll see how that plays out.

In talks in 1992 they committed to denuclearise.

They did the same in 2005.

NK will not give up it's nukes.
 
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While there is no doubt this is a big step, it’s just that, a step. And NK are well known to back out of things once they get what they feel they want.

On one note. The level hypocrisy of the US media about this is insane. I can’t find the video at the moment but it showed the same reporters saying how Obama meeting Kim would be a travesty and the worst thing in the world the USA could do, but now it’s trump it’s the best thing ever.
 
A denuclearisation agreement and secured peace with NK, that no one has achieved in generations.

You can bury your head in the sand if you like and call it as fake news but you’ll only make yourself look an idiot.

I think that's overstating the declaration contents.
 
A denuclearisation agreement and secured peace with NK, that no one has achieved in generations.

You can bury your head in the sand if you like and call it as fake news but you’ll only make yourself look an idiot.

Now don't fucking start with the insults. I ask a reasonable question and you come back with shit.
I'll try one more time; what has trump done to 'deserve credit' for bringing us 'closer to world peace' as BTH suggested?
 
Well, he's either just negotiated N.Korean nuclear disarmament, or planning permission for a Trump Tower and golf complex in Pyonyang.

In all seriousness, it sounds like he's come away with an agreement to work towards denuclearisation, which is pretty nothing above what they were already working towards anyway.

This is not fake news; it's non-news. Scrape away all the pomp and ceremony, and the basically, they have just agreed practically the same as was agreed with S.Korea back in April. Historic? Yes, but a huge propaganda win for N.Korea.
 
fuckin ell , credit where credit is due he has met the guy and looked him in the eye, its an important step in this ongoing long stand off. No other western leader has done it

I think some people would have preferred it if we had of just nuked them and carried on with the 'fire and fury' rhetoric.
 
Now don't fucking start with the insults. I ask a reasonable question and you come back with shit.
I'll try one more time; what has trump done to 'deserve credit' for bringing us 'closer to world peace' as BTH suggested?
I'd argue Trump has done far more to destabilise global relations than bring us closer to World peace. He picked a fight with Canada ffs.
 
fuckin ell , credit where credit is due he has met the guy and looked him in the eye, its an important step in this ongoing long stand off. No other western leader has done it

I think some people would have preferred it if we had of just nuked them and carried on with the 'fire and fury' rhetoric.

In a week he's legitimised North Korea and committed to the same process that NK agreed to in 1992 and 2005 and said he has a special bond with the dictator Kim Jong-Un - whilst his administration has said there is a special place in hell for the Canadian Prime Minister.

What a time we're living in.
 
In a week he's legitimised North Korea and committed to the same process that NK agreed to in 1992 and 2005 and said he has a special bond with the dictator Kim Jong-Un - whilst his administration has said there is a special place in hell for the Canadian Prime Minister.

What a time we're living in.

The guy cannot do anything right . Taken on its own I think this is a good step - I have visited Korea a few times and I am hopeful this is the start of something special for the peninsula and its people.
 
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