Donald Trump

[bluethrunthru]

Florida is one of the most voter-suppressed states in the country. It's got a history of gerrymandering and also they suffer from a lot of rich conservatives retiring there or voting thanks to their second homes.

They've also got insanely, blatantly partisan and corrupt Republican incumbents. In fact, in 2018 by a margin of 2-to-1, the people voted for ex-felons to get their voting rights back, and 2 year later the Republicans still refuse to give those 1.4m people back their votes (10% of the voting age population).

Desantis won the election in 2018 by 32,000 votes, Trump won Florida in 2016 by about 90,000 votes.

so as I say they reap what they sow - hard to gerrymander a whole state when there are only 3 voters left alive - lets hope they just crack on with the job

 

[SebastianBlue]

This is well in line with my interactions with many Harvard graduates whilst living in Boston (some that came from wealthy backgrounds were of suspect intelligence, to put it mildly) and is especially relevant given the worst kept secret (that everyone already knew) from Mary Trump’s book.

To be fair, it is not much different in our schools, as well.

 

[domalino]

Trumps electoral campaign seems to be protect white history. Yet no fucker in the media has the balls to call him a racist.

No one needs to call him a racist, in fact at this point I feel that focusing on it too much would actually be counter-productive.

If you engage with Trump on the racist stuff, he just gets to dominate and distort the conversation with personal rows. The things he can't distract from are the unemployment numbers, the death toll, the stock market.

He wants to distract those millions of unemployed, soon-to-be-bereaved, mostly white uneducated men from those real things with the fear of a fictional race war, of America being erased from history, of black supremecist communists.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I would say good riddance but WHO needs US money (which Trump has only partially been withholding) and... I will likely be living in the US for awhile longer. :-/

what is the point when he’s out on arse in November ?

 

[SebastianBlue]

what is the point when he’s out on arse in November ?

Well, apart from the fact that he may not be out on his arse in November (really January, when any peaceable transition would actually occur, if you believe he would ever accept such an outcome), the point is attempts at sowing chaos, creating distraction, blame-shifting, and diluting yet another source of oversight.

 

[JRockBlues]

There's a 6 month cooling off period, so if he loses in November then that will be reversed immediately on Day 1 of Biden's presidency.

But Biden (if he wins) won't get sworn in until mid-late January which is technically just over the 6 months from now.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

One of the great things about the timing of Mary Trump's book is that he's doing so badly in the polls, he's doing so badly at his job, and he seems so likely to lose in November that it might persuade businesses/ institutions or individuals mentioned like Wharton, to actually decide to jump on the bandwagon and get some separation.

And those self-serving, small or symbolic gestures can snowball quite quickly.

This issue is VERY MUCH in the consciousness of Americans of all stripes right now because of the Varsity Blues scandal last year. It will absolutely be pursued. This is a critical issue if the book is right and cheating by Trump can be proven.

If you don’t know about it — a number of high profile well-off people (including two famous actresses and some well-known business people) were caught paying people to cheat on the SAT for their children, bribing coaches at universities to let their under-qualified kids in by getting coaches to add them to recruit lists, and a number of other shenanigans pursued through a “college counselor” who took HUGE payoffs to run the scam disguised as “charitable contributions.”

I am very close to this — two families from my kids’ high school were involved (one a board member). The high schools did nothing wrong nor the colleges — just employees at the colleges, parents, this scamster counselor though very sadly in a few cases kids themselves in on it (though many/most had no idea their parents were cheating their way in).

Details here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_college_admissions_bribery_scandal

 

[Dobsy]

Fivethirtyeight are showing Biden has a 10 point average poll lead. He beat Clinton when she had a 5 point gap, so he has 5 months to pull back 5 points and it's still plausible he could win a second term.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Fivethirtyeight are showing Biden has a 10 point average poll lead. He beat Clinton when she had a 5 point gap, so he has 5 months to pull back 5 points and it's still plausible he could win a second term.

It’s plausible. But Biden isn’t Clinton, there are far fewer undecided voters this time, the nation is in a recession and a pandemic and Trump has to run on his track record, Trump won the EC by 80k votes in three states and nearly all swing states are polling for Biden, and that lead is double digits. What is Trump going to do to narrow the gap? I think he has two prayers: a miracle vaccine or Biden gets sick and his replacement is a mess. It probably isn’t in Trump’s control now.

 

[SebastianBlue]

It’s plausible. But Biden isn’t Clinton, there are far fewer undecided voters this time, the nation is in a recession and a pandemic and Trump has to run on his track record, Trump won the EC by 80k votes in three states and nearly all swing states are polling for Biden, and that lead is double digits. What is Trump going to do to narrow the gap? I think he has two prayers: a miracle vaccine or Biden gets sick and his replacement is a mess. It probably isn’t in Trump’s control now.

I think much of it is in Trump’s control right now.

Just not legal, legitimate, constitutional, democratic control.

Anyone thinking he is going to act fairly, with the high ideals of democracy at the forefront of his undertakings, hasn’t been paying attention (not saying you are one of those people, just saying this plainly).

Barr and a few others have already dug the foundation — that group and other Trump cronies, sycophants, and ‘in too deep to stop now’ associates/Republicans will be building the McMansion on top of it over the next few months, before locking as many people out of it as is necessary come November.

That’s if we are all lucky and he doesn’t decide to just burn it and the surrounding neighbourhood down for the insurance money in January when he realises he can’t sell it at even a break even price.