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But why is that industry uncompetitive? Because other countries have much cheaper labour costs is generally why. And so manufacturers from countries with higher cost bases move their operations to those other countries and export the goods they manufacture there to the higher cost economies, where they can sell them cheap but still make more profit than if they were making them in the original country.

But the result is that jobs are lost in those high wage economies and that results in the double whammy of lower tax revenues and higher social security costs. Whereas import tariffs help maintain those jobs that would have been lost and do so at no cost to the tariff-levying country.

So what would you propose? If imported goods are better and/or cheaper, how would you propose to force people to buy the more expensive inferior goods? Would you impose import tariffs and thereby burden everyone with higher costs than they would otherwise have to pay, i.e. make everyone poorer? Or pump in government subsidy to make the domestic goods artificially cheaper? And if so, how would you fund that? By taking money off everyone and making everyone poorer.

Propping up uncompetitive industry does not work, never has worked, never will work. I give you British Leyland, Rolls-Royce (once nationalised), the entire UK coal industy, British Steel. I could go on and on. And by the way, have you ever worked with with these businesses? I have, extensively. They were all a complete joke.

A much better long term solution is to encourage high quality, high value-add activity where high wages can be justified and sustained and gradually transition away from low-cost, low-value add activites leaving the countries that want to do the "shit" jobs to have them. British Steel (later Corus) realised just this back in 1999. They saw that their USP was their expertise in how to make high quality steels for particular requirements, NOT the actual making of it. It was the IP that was valuable, and they saw that there was going to be no money to be made in doing the shitty work of actually making the stuff. Unfortunately they didn't have the bottle to actually do anything about it, having had this realisation, so they just sat and waited for the inevitable.
 
Some good news from today, California voted No for Proposition 60 which wanted to make condoms a legal requirement in porn. Bukkake is still ok folks, i repeat Bukkake is good
Best news I've heard all day.
 
Trying to think of the Pros and Cons of this whole thing!

Pro

The dollar will be crazy cheap for the next 2 years, so book your hols, assuming you can get in!

Trade with US and Britain will go through the roof, kick-starting the pound again.

Britain may benefit from Trade everywhere else!

Trump will serve one term and may die in office, due to stress.

Stars will leave the US, more than we think.


Con

Race riots will gain momentum.

Wars will happen in the Middle East, with Daesh and Al Queada leading the way and Trump sticking to his guns about 'Army for Hire'.

Terrorism will kick up a notch.

Stars will leave the US, more than we think.

Trade will fook up everywhere.

The fooker has virtually ZERO policy and will have start from scratch.





The only good thing is he will have to keep some policy of Obama as he navigates through the first two years and that includes Obama Care. Where the fook is he gonna find the money to do anything?

Hasn't it been estimated that whatever he HAS proposed, is going to add $10 Tril to the Debt?

He's going to be a Figurehead, sat at the Oval Office and treating the whole thing like a long episode of 'The Apprentice'!

Putin fooking loves this guy!
 
I wonder if the liberal elite have noticed yet that "Project Fear" isn't working.
erm, trump's campaign pretty much was the definition of 'project fear' - seems to have worked so far? Agree that it might fall on its arse given time - but yeah
that will 'probably' help those that voted for him, right?
 
Trying to think of the Pros and Cons of this whole thing!

Pro

The dollar will be crazy cheap for the next 2 years, so book your hols, assuming you can get in!

Trade with US and Britain will go through the roof, kick-starting the pound again.

Britain may benefit from Trade everywhere else!

Trump will serve one term and may die in office, due to stress.

Stars will leave the US, more than we think.


Con

Race riots will gain momentum.

Wars will happen in the Middle East, with Daesh and Al Queada leading the way and Trump sticking to his guns about 'Army for Hire'.

Terrorism will kick up a notch.

Stars will leave the US, more than we think.

Trade will fook up everywhere.

The fooker has virtually ZERO policy and will have start from scratch.





The only good thing is he will have to keep some policy of Obama as he navigates through the first two years and that includes Obama Care. Where the fook is he gonna find the money to do anything?

Hasn't it been estimated that whatever he HAS proposed, is going to add $10 Tril to the Debt?

He's going to be a Figurehead, sat at the Oval Office and treating the whole thing like a long episode of 'The Apprentice'!

Putin fooking loves this guy!

Or maybe, as Teresa May effectively nobbles 44% of our exports by prioritising immigration control over access to the European market, Trump makes it even worse by ruining our biggest single export market (the US) by imposing import tariffs on UK goods.

Just brilliant.
 
Or maybe, as Teresa May effectively nobbles 44% of our exports by prioritising immigration control over access to the European market, Trump makes it even worse by ruining our biggest single export market (the US) by imposing import tariffs on UK goods.

Just brilliant.
As if we'd try to become a beacon of free trade just as protectionism kicks in.....
 
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