Donald Trump

Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It definitely had an impact, but we'll never know for sure why Comey did what he did, and who told him to do it. Voter apathy certainly help her.
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It probably nudged the needle by a point or two but in reality Hilary should never have been that close. When you look back her campaign was very much in cruise control and they took far too much for granted. They massively underestimated how disliked the Clinton brand was outside of the Washington bubble. And they massively underestimated how much Trump was controlling the news cycle and drowning her out. You look now how carefully the Harris team act in ensuring they don't appear to be part of the Washington elite. The Walz pick is what Hillary didn't have, he brings that normal person vibe. And JD is a massive own goal on appealing to normal people.
BlueAnorak said:
Trump's statement on Ukraine yesterday confirmed what we already knew. Basically, If Trump wins - Ukraine is finished - probably NATO too as Moldiva and the Baltics won't be defended against Putin either.
How any of my ex US military friends, most with with some level of traditional Republican leaning could vote for this aresehole is simply beyond me.
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Trump appeals to dumb ass rural voters who often don't vote and hopes that the traditional white collar gop vote will hold their nose. That was the coalition that won in 2016. His problems this time appear to be with those white collar gop voters.
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
It probably nudged the needle by a point or two but in reality Hilary should never have been that close. When you look back her campaign was very much in cruise control and they took far too much for granted. They massively underestimated how disliked the Clinton brand was outside of the Washington bubble. And they massively underestimated how much Trump was controlling the news cycle and drowning her out. You look now how carefully the Harris team act in ensuring they don't appear to be part of the Washington elite. The Walz pick is what Hillary didn't have, he brings that normal person vibe. And JD is a massive own goal on appealing to normal people.

Trump appeals to dumb ass rural voters who often don't vote and hopes that the traditional white collar gop vote will hold their nose. That was the coalition that won in 2016. His problems this time appear to be with those white collar gop voters.
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In 2016, Trump was a relatively blank canvas when it came to most voters, and 'Drain the Swamp' was a very effective campaign slogan with voters who were fed up or apathetic towards the Washington elites. Many of the relatively sane voters who took a punto on him first time round don't seem to be falling for that rhetoric this time around, because they now know that 'Drain the Swamp' means 'get rid of anyone who won't kiss the ring and replace them with one of his hand-picked, underqualified lackeys (how Lewis DeJoy ended up as head of the USPS, I'll never know).

The real issue this time are the cult members who will seeming do anything to put Trump back in the chair.
 
west didsblue said:
And if anyone thinks it’s just rhetoric from him and he wouldn’t do what he says on Ukraine, you only need to look at Afghanistan where he effectively surrendered to the Taliban by releasing thousands of terrorists then withdrew support for the Afghan government leaving Biden with an impossible situation that was unrecoverable without restarting a major war.
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And he also abandoned the Kurds in Syria leaving many to be killed by the Syrian government, Turkey and Russia. Trump’s method of ending wars is always to abandon allies and allow enemies to win.
 
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