Donald Trump

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

By Trump?

Who in turn is owned by...

Spoiler

 

[Vic]

Google is your friend.

You don't even need Google. Just check the political threads here. You'd find enough evidence of folks ridiculing the religiousness of Republicans.

The notion that this is some debatable point is silly.

...ridiculing the hypocrisy of Republicans.


Google, you say...

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/459296-christians-cannot-serve-both-god-and-the-gop/

 

[Vic]

I think good liberal people view it this way. Practicing Christians don't. For the record, 'tolerance' is a Christian ethic, "inclusion" is not.

I take your point on hypocrisy. But believing all the precepts of Christianity, even if you fall short of upholding them, is exactly what makes you a Christian.

But pretending it changes with the winds of new age understanding, is exactly what is not a Christian.

The Y'allQueda types you make fun of who talk to Jesus daily and understand all things through that prism... Yes, those are the Christians!

Inclusion? What could be more inclusive than "Go and make disciples of all nations"?

If Jesus was a refugee * these Republicans would round him up and deport him.

* He was.

 

[threespires]

Never heard of de Chardin. Apparently a Jesuit, which I suppose in my limited knowledge of Catholicism, makes sense.

Jesuits are arguably the most interesting Catholic order, a reputation for curiosity and pissing people off especially within the church itself. Lot's of interesting characters, in the 1600's one called Kircher had himself lowered into Vesuvius as it was about to erupt so he could have a mooch about and try and understand what was going on, which was quite a Jesuit thing to do.

 

[Dax777]

Inclusion? What could be more inclusive than "Go and make disciples of all nations"?

I'm sure you understand 'inclusion' in the above context is not the same as 'inclusion' in the Critical theory parlance.. The former as you've described it above suggests any person can be a Christian if they follow the precepts of Christianity. Including a bunch of ideas and declining a bunch of other ideas.


The latter is a request to accept one as they are even if their lifestyle violates the principles the religion is founded on.

They are not the same. Inclusion as understood in the latter context is not a Christian value.

If Jesus was a refugee * these Republicans would round him up and deport him.

* He was.

If he was an illegal immigrant, sure. But a Refugee? Absolutely not.

America is one of the most pro Immigrant nations in the World. It's just not pro illegal immigration. It's really not that complicated.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Jesuits are arguably the most interesting Catholic order, a reputation for curiosity and pissing people off especially within the church itself. Lot's of interesting characters, in the 1600's one called Kircher had himself lowered into Vesuvius as it was about to erupt so he could have a mooch about and try and understand what was going on, which was quite a Jesuit thing to do.

So so so true. The secular pragmatism they exhibited in class after class of being educated by them is something you don’t appreciate as much when you’re young but do when you’re older.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Religious Landscape Study

Explore the geographic distribution and demographics of America's major religious groups.

www.pewresearch.org

I'm guessing that's where you got your stats.

You can just go on down and view the charts that follow

I did. And that’s why I said that Republicans are more likely to claim religiosity. Slightly. The idea that one party is overwhelmingly the party of Christianity is clearly bollocks.

 

[KS55]

You have not spent a lot of time with Jesuits, have you?

I think Jesus might have something to say about inclusion, personally, given the rabble he hung out with, but I’m just guessing.

“Let him who is without sin cast the first stone”

 

[KS55]

I read a ton of Teilhard de Chardin in school, who tried to reconcile the science behind evolution with the idea of God as a magical Creator. In fact the science vs creation debate was why I minored in theology. I always liked his semi-concept of Christ as the ideally-evolved human. It always strikes me as odd that God would be authoritarian as opposed to Buddhist. The guys who wrote South Park thought so too.

If he were Buddhist, he probably would not have been god. A paradox.

 

[Three_Hat-tricks]