Donald Trump

inchy14 said:
Whilst I agree that he’s not fit for office, any office actually, is this not a slippery slope to go down? If he’s a convicted criminal and it’s in the rules he can’trun then that’s one thing but for courts to decide who can or can’t run doesn’t seem very democratic to me.









I personally think he should be in jail but just questioning this decision.
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As posted in US political thread.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
I think it stands a sliver of a chance of being upheld. Not a lot of people are aware that Trump has really pissed off a lot of SCOTUS members (of course he has, he’s pissed off everybody he’s ever met). This article is quite revealing:


In short, Roberts in particular is a Bush-ite judge and he takes his independence very seriously, and Trump has undermined it continuously. I can tell you with a degree of certainty that Roberts has no love for Trump.

Kavanaugh, despite being nominated by Trump is also a former Bush administration justice department member who is very closely allied to Roberts.

If you check their voting record this tracks, they’ve voted against the Republican position on a number of issues. They only need those two to flip and it’s all over. It must be tempting for them to get rid of the loon forever.

Thomas is, as you’d expect, the closest thing the court will get to having Goebbels serving as justice, there’s no hope for him.
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The blue phantom said:
It doesn't, Seven Democrat appointed judges voted 4-3 to boot him off. When it hits the supreme Court there's Six Conservative to Three Democrat Judges. Its near certain Trump will be back on the ballot and his base even more behind him.
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It's very much up in the air this. Yes the SCOTUS is loaded with conservative judges but they are not all Trump loyalist. They don't always vote in line with GOP interests.

They may have one eye on the future. Trump is trouble and he has a wall of legal issues in front of him. The judges won't want to be seen as his get out of jail card. Endless issues all appealed up to the highest court so that the scales can be tipped in his favour. I think it much more likely they pick and choose when to help him. Also there is various degrees of corruption at play. Big GOP donors will all be on the phone trying to influence this. Again I think it's 50:50 on if those calls will be for and against. This is a big opportunity to get rid, they bottled it on his second impeachment and I suspect many regret that now. But they bottled that because of the fear of his retaliation. That still hangs over them.

There is a third option here which is to deny the Colarado case on some technicality but leave the door open for other states. That's the most likely outcome. Upholding a less dem state might play out better.
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
It's very much up in the air this. Yes the SCOTUS is loaded with conservative judges but they are not all Trump loyalist. They don't always vote in line with GOP interests.

They may have one eye on the future. Trump is trouble and he has a wall of legal issues in front of him. The judges won't want to be seen as his get out of jail card. Endless issues all appealed up to the highest court so that the scales can be tipped in his favour. I think it much more likely they pick and choose when to help him. Also there is various degrees of corruption at play. Big GOP donors will all be on the phone trying to influence this. Again I think it's 50:50 on if those calls will be for and against. This is a big opportunity to get rid, they bottled it on his second impeachment and I suspect many regret that now. But they bottled that because of the fear of his retaliation. That still hangs over them.

There is a third option here which is to deny the Colarado case on some technicality but leave the door open for other states. That's the most likely outcome. Upholding a less dem state might play out better.
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I think there's just less than zero chance of them agreeing with the Colorado Judges. They aren't leaving themselves open for the Maga movement to hound them. I want the horrible **** to be extinguished more than anyone but I think this will only fire up his base more and bring others on board. Only hope is the undecided & independents stay well away
 
The blue phantom said:
I think there's just less than zero chance of them agreeing with the Colorado Judges. They aren't leaving themselves open for the Maga movement to hound them. I want the horrible **** to be extinguished more than anyone but I think this will only fire up his base more and bring others on board. Only hope is the undecided & independents stay well away
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What a fucked-up situation.
 
I’m sure I’ve said this many times before but if you still watch this **** and still don’t think this **** is a Nazi **** that’s unfit for office then you really truly are a ****. A **** I wouldn’t piss on to out, you absolute fucking ****. ****.

 
SWP's back said:
I’m sure I’ve said this many times before but if you still watch this **** and still don’t think this **** is a Nazi **** that’s unfit for office then you really truly are a ****. A **** I wouldn’t piss on to out, you absolute fucking ****. ****.

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I just listened this Republican **** trying to say he was talking about Democrats regarding the poisoning of blood, When he's stating they are oming in xrom Africa, Mexico etc. Can you imagine trying to defend him by just making up utter fuckin nonsense.

80 seconds in

 
SWP's back said:
I’m sure I’ve said this many times before but if you still watch this **** and still don’t think this **** is a Nazi **** that’s unfit for office then you really truly are a ****. A **** I wouldn’t piss on to out, you absolute fucking ****. ****.

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I don't think he's a Nazi ****, just a ****. But he's worse and far more cynical and stupider than a plain old Nazi. He's using Nazi rhetoric (because it worked before) to install himself in power to protect himself from prosecution from his crimes and to enact retribution on all those he believes have wronged him. He doesn't believe half of what he's saying. He's saying it because he knows it will resonate with his cult. Of course one could say there's no distinction between being a Nazi and using Nazi rhetoric, which is fine.
 
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