Donald Trump

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I find the comments about how blue Colorado is quite funny because this was as red as red states come 40 years ago.

I will reiterate what I've said about a thousand times -- the GOP is absolutely freaking about reliable red states turning blue, as California, Washington and Colorado all have over the last few decades. More states will do so due to in-migration by middle-class suburban folks who have been priced out of the coasts. The GOP is worried about Texas, North Carolina, Georgia and Nevada especially. They know Florida and Arizona they always have a chance to be red because those states have a high percentage of retirees who tend to vote conservatively, and the Midwest/Rust Belt is often a toss up.

When/if these states flip permanently, no Republican will win the Presidency again in an Electoral College system (which is why calls to dismantle it from liberals display a lack of understanding about demogrpahics and their inevitability -- Democrats should WANT the Electoral College to stay in place!)

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

I think there's just less than zero chance of them agreeing with the Colorado Judges. They aren't leaving themselves open for the Maga movement to hound them. I want the horrible **** to be extinguished more than anyone but I think this will only fire up his base more and bring others on board. Only hope is the undecided & independents stay well away

It's not zero chance. Look at the recent decision to hear the immunity argument. The SCOTUS could have just pushed that back and let Trump play for time. But instead they are going to look at it and quickly. It's a case where Trump has a very weak argument and not much else in terms of defence. They had an easy option to delay and didn't take it.

As I've said, there's so many legal battles going on and if the supreme court bails him out every time its going to piss people off and further undermine the court. Its already under pressure following the abortion ruling and corruption issues around Thomas.

It will be very interesting to see how the two issues progress.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I don't think he's a Nazi ****, just a ****. But he's worse and far more cynical and stupider than a plain old Nazi. He's using Nazi rhetoric (because it worked before) to install himself in power to protect himself from prosecution from his crimes and to enact retribution on all those he believes have wronged him. He doesn't believe half of what he's saying. He's saying it because he knows it will resonate with his cult. Of course one could say there's no distinction between being a Nazi and using Nazi rhetoric, which is fine.

He's not a Nazi, just a fucking racist, narcissistic **** who will do and say ANYTHING for personal gain.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

As if on cue . . . .



Are all these folks gonna vote blue? No. But this is a problem as historically states with big in-migration tend to turn blue over time because, later, offshore immigrants to serve the growing population come to these places, which become increasingly urbanized — and immigrant urbanites are heavily blue voters.

 

[domalino]

I think there's just less than zero chance of them agreeing with the Colorado Judges. They aren't leaving themselves open for the Maga movement to hound them. I want the horrible **** to be extinguished more than anyone but I think this will only fire up his base more and bring others on board. Only hope is the undecided & independents stay well away

It's not zero chance. Look at the recent decision to hear the immunity argument. The SCOTUS could have just pushed that back and let Trump play for time. But instead they are going to look at it and quickly. It's a case where Trump has a very weak argument and not much else in terms of defence. They had an easy option to delay and didn't take it.

As I've said, there's so many legal battles going on and if the supreme court bails him out every time its going to piss people off and further undermine the court. Its already under pressure following the abortion ruling and corruption issues around Thomas.

It will be very interesting to see how the two issues progress.

The Colorado case is based off research and findings of the federalist society.

Gorsuch, Thomas, ACB, Alito and Kavanaugh are all massive Federalist Society nut jobs.

Also their key argument about states rights quotes Gorsuch’s opinions extensively.

Remember they only just had arguments over the South Carolina gerrymandering case where the right wing of the court were pushing the idea that states have full rights to totally control every aspect of their own elections. That was in October! The verdict isn’t it yet!!

If they rule against Trump they will be going against their own ideology and overruling their own opinions - which doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but it’s the ultimate test of whether the federalists and proper right wing nut jobs are loyal to the right or loyal to Trump.



Also I think it’s wrong to say these just fire up trumps base, every single time the feds have gone after him hes had a net negative results in the polls.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

I find the comments about how blue Colorado is quite funny because this was as red as red states come 40 years ago.

I will reiterate what I've said about a thousand times -- the GOP is absolutely freaking about reliable red states turning blue, as California, Washington and Colorado all have over the last few decades. More states will do so due to in-migration by middle-class suburban folks who have been priced out of the coasts. The GOP is worried about Texas, North Carolina, Georgia and Nevada especially. They know Florida and Arizona they always have a chance to be red because those states have a high percentage of retirees who tend to vote conservatively, and the Midwest/Rust Belt is often a toss up.

When/if these states flip permanently, no Republican will win the Presidency again in an Electoral College system (which is why calls to dismantle it from liberals display a lack of understanding about demogrpahics and their inevitability -- Democrats should WANT the Electoral College to stay in place!)

In many respects it’s similar to the Tories. I’ve been keeping an eye on the data for UK elections and in most polls you see they will survey 150-200 young people,age 18-24. They tend to only get something like 1-3 people out of that group saying they will vote Conservative. Many will dismiss this by saying young people get more conservative as they age, but this effect is nowhere near to the extent of years gone by. Conservatives aren’t pulling majorities with any age group below 70+.

I mention this because the Republicans are similarly experiencing an existential crisis. They‘ve only won the popular vote once in 35 years, but they’ve still won elections because the distribution of voters across locations has favoured them disproportionately. But now that is starting to change, frankly they’ve been lucky to win the elections they have.

The cold hard fact is that this new Conservative politics is astonishingly unpopular with young voters - and it’s only getting worse. Yet rather than compromise they press further right.

One day soon they are going to have to learn that the only way they will ever win another election is through a drastic shift leftwards. This is why I think this very right wing Overton window we have now is going to flip in a few decades and the political landscape will be unrecognisable. The furthest right parties of 2050 will be today’s centrists. I would bet good money on it.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

All things considered, this guy got a light sentence, which begs the question 'what did he have to offer the DoJ'?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The cold hard fact is that this new Conservative politics is astonishingly unpopular with young voters - and it’s only getting worse. Yet rather than compromise they press further right.

Because it doesn't offer anyone that age anything. Previous right-wing movements might have thrown them a bone economically or given them improvements in conditions at work or other areas of life by concessions.

Republican's true base is old rich people with vested in interest in a decaying status quo.

And it's just hoovering up groups of nutters to make a viable voting block.

Young conservatives tend to be oddballs who watch Alt-right content online, born into privileged backgrounds and lack insight, or just good old fashioned cunts.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The fucking state of that country that this **** even has a look-in of getting elected again.

 

[Vic]

I don't think he's a Nazi ****, just a ****. But he's worse and far more cynical and stupider than a plain old Nazi. He's using Nazi rhetoric (because it worked before) to install himself in power to protect himself from prosecution from his crimes and to enact retribution on all those he believes have wronged him. He doesn't believe half of what he's saying. He's saying it because he knows it will resonate with his cult. Of course one could say there's no distinction between being a Nazi and using Nazi rhetoric, which is fine.

Think the unthinkable. Say the unsayable. Finally, do the undoable.