Douglas Luiz - 2019/20 Performances

[lightning Rodri]

That's unfortunate :(

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

Fucking brilliant.

No defensive midfield cover and Luiz work permit denied.

The FA are twats.

 

[FantasyIreland]

The rules are pretty cut and dry really, and he doesn't pass any of them, so based on the laws as they are it's probably the right decision, although it's shit for the kid.

The main test is based on international appearances in the last couple of years.

Then there's an appeal where you get points for transfer cost, wage cost, whether you've player in continental competitions etc.

http://www.danielgeey.com/the-foreigner-debate-the-fas-new-work-permit-regulations-explained/

That article explains them very well. He failed the Main test, failed the appeals procedure and was left hoping for an exemption.

Also @St.Pauli support, the public not being told is not the same as the work permit process lacking transparency, for all we know City might have a very thorough explanation from the panel of why they turned him down.

How did Richarlison get his?

 

[Delphinho]

Fucking brilliant.

No defensive midfield cover and Luiz work permit denied.

The FA are twats.

Gundogan, Delph, Gomes, Zinchenko and potentially Stones can play there

 

[FantasyIreland]

Fucking brilliant.

No defensive midfield cover and Luiz work permit denied.

The FA are twats.

We have cover.Turn it in.

 

[Neville Kneville]

So he is effectively of no use to City whatsoever & has no future here unless he plays regularly for a period of time for Brazil & we hike his wages up. And still not guaranteed then.

Might as well sell him.

 

[domalino]

How did Richarlison get his?

Well he was a big get for them so they probably put him in the top 25% of their wage earners, that gets him 3 points.

Fluminese are in the top division of Brazil and he would have played well over 30% of their games in the season before he joined Everton, that gets him 1 point,

His participation in the previous seasons Copa Libertadores gets him another.

So he gets at least 5 points, which means they recommend a work permit.

 

[pudge]

I imagine a work permit would have opened more doors for a better loan. Akin to Mooy.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Well he was a big get for them so they probably put him in the top 50% of their wage earners, that gets him 3 points.

Fluminese are in the top division of Brazil and he would have played well over 30% of their games in the season before he joined Everton, that gets him 1 point,

His participation in the previous seasons Copa Libertadores gets him another.

So he gets at least 5 points, which means they recommend a work permit.

Hmmmm......thanks for the info

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

Gundogan, Delph, Gomes, Zinchenko and potentially Stones can play there

Gundogan isn't a DM, Delph - maybe (looked great in midfield for England), Gomes - maybe (don't know much about him), Zinchenko isn't a DM & Stones is a great passer for a centre back, but probably isn't good enough on the ball to be a Pivot.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I imagine a work permit would have opened more doors for a better loan. Akin to Mooy.

Indeed.I feel sorry for the Kid.

 

[Delphinho]

Gundogan isn't a DM, Delph - maybe (looked great in midfield for England), Gomes - maybe (don't know much about him), Zinchenko isn't a DM & Stones is a great passer for a centre back, but probably isn't good enough on the ball to be a Pivot.

I`m sure at least one of those are good enough to play DM in the domestic cups or against lower-tier teams. Fernandinho is world class, so I think we will be ok. Don`t think we have seen the best of Gundogan yet

 

[FantasyIreland]

I`m sure at least one of those are good enough to play DM in the domestic cups or against lower-tier teams. Fernandinho is world class, so I think we will be ok. Don`t think we have seen the best of Gundogan yet

Between Dinho,Gundo and Delph we will be fine.

Lets keep this to Luiz please.

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

I`m sure at least one of those are good enough to play DM in the domestic cups or against lower-tier teams. Fernandinho is world class, so I think we will be ok. Don`t think we have seen the best of Gundogan yet

I agree on all counts of that post.

I just worry about a Fernandinho injury. Any extended injury to him and we're up the creek.

 

[MillionDollarDream]

Also I don’t like that even with Pep’s and Tite’s endorsement they would try to deny him his work permit. Sending him out on loan significantly reduces his chances of impressing enough to make the NT at a time where there will be plenty of turnover soon. Similar transfer fee as Richarlison at Watford don’t know what his current wage is though, but he was playing in the top division of Brazil as well. Also similar amount of U20 appearances before moves to Europe. They really shouldn’t be denying him.

 

[TonyM]

I’d imagine that a Portuguese club would be best for him.

 

[bugsyblue]

Fucking Brexit.

 

[hfc]

How did Richarlison get a work permit but Douglas Luiz can't?

 

[FantasyIreland]

How did Richarlison get a work permit but Douglas Luiz can't?

See the previous page.

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Sounds like if Pep had known this earlier, it might have had a bigger impact on our transfer business...

Sam Lee‏Verified account @Sammy_Goal 25s26 seconds ago
Guardiola confirms Douglas Luiz did not get a work permit and they'll send him on loan to try to get one. "It's so difficult for me to understands. Guys who are not in the training sessions have to judge" whether somebody can play or not.

Sam Lee‏Verified account @Sammy_Goal 32s33 seconds ago
Guardiola on Douglas Luiz: "I am so sad and disappointed for Douglas. I think he is a player with a huge capacity to play with us. We wanted the work permit because we believe he can play. They didn't know him, not one game, not one training session. We accept it but..."

City Watch‏Verified account @City_Watch 2m2 minutes ago
Pep on the Douglas Luiz decision: "I would prefer it wasn't announced yesterday - if they decide 10, 15 days ago, maybe tell me then, then I can decide what to do