Dying

I'm no real believer in ghosts or spirits , quite sceptical , and i take a lot of convincing , but three days after my mum died i was alone in the living room watching tv at 2am in the morning , and beside me all night had silently lain a childs transparent plastic rolling wheel , with a fair number of small balls inside it .

I was feelin' a bit peckish so just before i was about to turn in for the night , i went into the kitchen to make a sandwich ....... as i was buttering my bread i distinctly heard the sound of the toy either being rolled , or shaken ... it happened only for a few seconds , and then a freezing cold shiver went right through me.

I nervously crept back into the living room , only to find that the plastic wheel toy in exactly the same location that it had been in all night ...... but i definetely heard that sound , no doubt about it ....... i then went to bed to find my missus awake and complaining that an icy cold blast had just swept past her face , and woke her up ..... it makes you wonder.

Not only that but my brother , who lives alone , was asleep on the same night and he was awoken by the sound of distant music ....... he got out of bed , went into his living room , to find that someone , or something , had turned his music centre on .... something which he says hadn't been on for the previous week.

My sister , the following night , was asleep on her chair when a strange 'whining' noise startled her ..... she awoke from her nap to see the entire main wall in her living room lit up with the crystal clear vision of a meadow and a gently rippling stream ...... when i told her that some people say heaven is said to be like that she couldn't believe it .... but she insists that she never knew that , and that the vision had definetely occured ...... she said the vision appeared to translate 'absolute peace'.
 
levets said:
piffy on a rock bun said:
The same as above only the one I saw looked very peacfull, Suppose it depends where your going?

I've seen two people check out in front of me... My Mum & My younger brother.

Mum sounded terrible at her last breath.. anguished almost.

Tony just went to sleep and never woke up.

I swear I still hear him shouting at Eastlands


The road ahead is hard and steep, with hills to climb and furrows deep,
and life will never be as good. as when you beside me always stood,
But I believe that here you stay, you walk beside me every day.
At night you gently touch my cheek and memories are mine to keep,
of my dear brother, so deeply missed, since that last day your head I kissed.
Inside my heart forever stay and walk beside me every day.

Think a lot of it has to be down to be drugs and painkillers tbh. The death I witnessed was one where the person was completely aware of the situation, and had no painkillers or suchlike in the hours leading to their demise.
 
tonea2003 said:
mammutly said:
This isn't a miserable topic.

Death is potentially the most life enhancing thing possible - think about it.

not passing through some pearly gates perchance?

Not at all.

It's a true saying that 'a lot gets done in the last minute'.

If there was endless time to do everything, a lot less would get done.

People always want to do the big things in life before certain ages. I want to climb an 8000 metre peak before I'm 50. People might want to get married before they're 30, or lose their viginity by 13 or have kids by 28 or whatever.

Point is that death gives life its clock.
 
We are the children of stars. In the heart of a dying star new elements were being made. Every single atom from your body has come from these dead stars. This is the journey of the atoms that compose us starting today and ending at the beginning of time. They have traveled for billions of years through stars, space, Earth, and time until they joined together to create each one of us. Soon they will leave us.

Or perhaps that IS us. Perhaps we are all bits of all the stars that will ever exist. We, a collection of atoms, will live on to form new stars, and give new life to the universe as it did to us.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VoxWsvBLXw[/youtube]

If all just one big circle of life.
 
paphos-mcfc said:
appy days. Not sure about the stardust theory?? To live is to die (apparently)

Its scientific fact mate its how nuclear fusion works, we where once apart of a star and one day we will be again. The real question is though how consciousness transfers during the process of dying if it does at all.

Think about it, if energy can not be destroyed and only transferred from one state to another state. With in essence our consciousness/soul being the electrical & chemical energy of our brain, what does that mean for us ?

Does it mean when we die its like a car running out of petrol (energy) that's it game over. Or is our consciousness/soul the energy signature from our brain and not the actual vessel. With dying just the next step onto something different as the energy transformers from one energy signature to another energy signature like it does during our entire lifetime.

Personally i don't know myself, i just take comfort in the fact that what makes me has always been around and always will be around. That is an indisputable scientific fact, what that truly means at the end of the day who knows.
 
my mum,God bless passed away 10 yrs ago.My Dad,4 yrs ago.Still think of them every day.My Mum has "VISITED" me on occasions,but not my Da.Why is that,loved both to bits.P.S.Can City please win another trophy b4 i go.
 
mammutly said:
tonea2003 said:
not passing through some pearly gates perchance?

Not at all.

It's a true saying that 'a lot gets done in the last minute'.

If there was endless time to do everything, a lot less would get done.

People always want to do the big things in life before certain ages. I want to climb an 8000 metre peak before I'm 50. People might want to get married before they're 30, or lose their viginity by 13 or have kids by 28 or whatever.

Point is that death gives life its clock.

you are a long time dead so from that aspect yes death does life your life a clock
not sure about "a lot gets done in the last minute" unless you are talking derby matches :-(
 
TTTCITYBHOY said:
my mum,God bless passed away 10 yrs ago.My Dad,4 yrs ago.Still think of them every day.My Mum has "VISITED" me on occasions,but not my Da.Why is that,loved both to bits.P.S.Can City please win another trophy b4 i go.

Just a thought mate, and it is only a thought and in noway meant to be detriment to anybody in the post. Maybe your Da has a few more Mansions to go than your Mam, by mansions i mean, well check my other post.Mansions= depending how you have been on this physical plane really will determine how quickly you can move on in the Hether. :)
 
Challenger1978 said:
paphos-mcfc said:
appy days. Not sure about the stardust theory?? To live is to die (apparently)

Its scientific fact mate its how nuclear fusion works, we where once apart of a star and one day we will be again. The real question is though how consciousness transfers during the process of dying if it does at all.

Think about it, if energy can not be destroyed and only transferred from one state to another state. With in essence our consciousness/soul being the electrical & chemical energy of our brain, what does that mean for us ?

Does it mean when we die its like a car running out of petrol (energy) that's it game over. Or is our consciousness/soul the energy signature from our brain and not the actual vessel. With dying just the next step onto something different as the energy transformers from one energy signature to another energy signature like it does during our entire lifetime.

Personally i don't know myself, i just take comfort in the fact that what makes me has always been around and always will be around. That is an indisputable scientific fact, what that truly means at the end of the day who knows.

I think that's unlikely. If the energy/consciousness lived on after physical death then the energy of the universe being recycled would be being depleted. I don't think we see that.
But then again it's difficult to talk about consciousness in any meaningful way since we still don't know too much about it.
 

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