Dyke's Proposals

[Skip Donoghue]

Re: Dykes Proposals

We get a big hefty fee when he plays for the first team?

Woopy doo....a few million, as I said a flawed system, I would rather have kept the player who is good enough for Barca's 1st team than collect a few million in a transfer fee, wouldn't you? Unfortunately for us that was never an option

I would rather the few million for a player who never looked anything special in our EDS team compared to his team mates tbh because either we weren't the right place for him to be or he didn't want to be here.

Exactly....so what was the point of bringing him over...like I said and you have also agreed with bringing foriegn kids in is a big gamble and a flawed system and is only done because clubs are always looking for the next big thing and scared of missing out on something

There is plenty of British talent at youth level our U14s , 15s and 16s are up there with the best in Europe and 90% of those squads are British players.....these proposals will bridge a gap to the 1st team for these lads hopefully

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Danny Mills is on the commission. Danny Mills. Danny fucking Mills.

And Hoddle. And Wio. And Howard fuckin' Wilkinson. Isn't that bugger busy sorting out his store? And Dyke. He sounds as though he's just come off a barrow floggin' over-ripe fruit!

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: Dykes Proposals

I would rather the few million for a player who never looked anything special in our EDS team compared to his team mates tbh because either we weren't the right place for him to be or he didn't want to be here.

Exactly....so what was the point of bringing him over...like I said and you have also agreed with bringing foriegn kids in is a big gamble and a flawed system and is only done because clubs are always looking for the next big thing and scared of missing out on something

There is plenty of British talent at youth level our U14s , 15s and 16s are up there with the best in Europe and 90% of those squads are British players.....these proposals will bridge a gap to the 1st team for these lads hopefully

And we also have some real talents like Manu Garcia, Marco Lopes, Brahim and Zack Faour in there, which doesn't do anyone any harm, so why the complaints? If these players make it then it's a plus, if they don't they're potentially a source of income when sold on.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Re: Dykes Proposals

Very disappointed at the subject matter of this thread. >:(

Put a plug in it mate

 

[RandomJ]

I don't see what is the uproar about? This would only benefit the Premier League teams because their "B" players would get valuable playing time.

The "B" teams could not progress to championship or compete in FA or League cups, so how exactly would this hurt the lower league teams?

Exactly it only benefits the Premier League and shows huge disrespect to the lower league teams. It would destroy lower league football cos how are fans and teams going to dream of promotion when you have to beat a Chelsea B team that cost £100 million.

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: Dykes Proposals

Very disappointed at the subject matter of this thread. >:(

Put a plug in it mate

I can see the entire thing going down the drain tbh.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

Re: Dykes Proposals

There is plenty of British talent at youth level our U14s , 15s and 16s are up there with the best in Europe and 90% of those squads are British players.....these proposals will bridge a gap to the 1st team for these lads hopefully

There might well be plenty of British talent..and like I said..if they make it..they should make it on merit and not just to make up the numbers

Why should we as a club not have the choice to cherry pick the best youngsters the world has to offer..just to give 'Fred Smith' from Wythenshawe a kick about

I'm all for bringing British youth through..but we have a multi million pound academy for that

 

[Cobwebcat]

Only 2 non eu players allowed in the squad?

Is this a joke? So we could have Zab and Yaya but no Aguero or Fernandinho?

 

[Skip Donoghue]

Apparently City, utd, Liverpool and Arsenal support the B team idea

Of course they do....bringing players through your academy will literally save a club millions....bring through local lads who care about the club and that is the ultimate...we aren't building and investing in the academy we are because it looks nice, we want world class players coming from it....same as the rags, dippers, and so on

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Just posted this in another thread.


It's wrong. Other leagues across Europe do it, but the lower league teams in them countries are not very well supported. My local team is grimsby and if a b team got put in the conference it would be a farce as the league is already hard enough to get out of. They're some brilliantly supported teams in the lower leagues and there fans are just as passionate as city fans, why bother messing around with a perfectly good system.

 

[Happy Feet]

Who gives a fuck about England and the brass band

 

[Chi-town blues]

I read the thread title and got lost in translation :O

 

[Skip Donoghue]

Re: Dykes Proposals

I would rather the few million for a player who never looked anything special in our EDS team compared to his team mates tbh because either we weren't the right place for him to be or he didn't want to be here.

Exactly....so what was the point of bringing him over...like I said and you have also agreed with bringing foriegn kids in is a big gamble and a flawed system and is only done because clubs are always looking for the next big thing and scared of missing out on something

There is plenty of British talent at youth level our U14s , 15s and 16s are up there with the best in Europe and 90% of those squads are British players.....these proposals will bridge a gap to the 1st team for these lads hopefully

And we also have some real talents like Manu Garcia, Marco Lopes, Brahim and Zack Faour in there, which doesn't do anyone any harm, so why the complaints? If these players make it then it's a plus, if they don't they're potentially a source of income when sold on.

I don't dispute we have some very talented young foreign players and I have no complaints about them being at City, but I want these players to make it with us not sod off home at the first opportunity and then to top it off end up playing for Benfica or Barca's or whoever's 1st team and being worth £10s of millions and we have picked up a couple of million for the kid in compo, this is why I don't think bringing in young foreign players in is the way forward for our academy and maybe the new proposals by the FA will limit any foreign talent making sure it is only the very best

Any kid that makes it at City now will have to be world class that is for sure and I think the 14s 15s and 16s will produce that kid

 

[aguero93:20]

Why does he[Dyke] feel the need to change youth structures every 2/3 years without waiting to see do they work?

 

[@BluePhil8]

It will benefit City.

Manchester City B has a nice ring to it.

 

[the originalkippaxman]

The fat fucker and his pissed up merry men have no fucking idea. They should have proposed to extend the substitutes to 10 but 3 of them must be home grown under 20 players. This would allow teams to use those younger substitutes when battering a team with no risk of losing. Would have been nice to give some of the youngest an opportunity against Arsenal, Spurs, Norwich etc this year. Also have an option to utilise a 4th substitute but the player can only be home grown 18 and younger.

 

[Dynamo11]

I'm really not happy about the proposition of Premier League B teams in the Football League. It's a pathetic measure that doesn't fix anything but will actually make the value of the oldest professional football league in the world decrease by a huge amount. Teams like York, Burton and Luton would be forced into the conference to make way for Chelsea B, Rags B and Liverpool B.
How does any of that fix the development of English players considering those League teams are mostly English and the Premier League B teams are mostly not. It's a stupid ill thought out proposal that I hope gets shot down.
There's nothing wrong with having a B team league, of which there is one in the U-21 League.

 

[hertsblue]

Hard to take a commission of Dyke, Hodgson, Danny Mills, Dario Gradi, Glenn Hoddle, Greg Clarke, Howard Wilkinson, Rio Ferdinand, Ritchie Humphreys and Roger Burden seriously in all truth. made up with non football people, dinosaurs and half wits like Mills and Ferdinand.

They say more English players need to be in the PL but with FFP and the PL FFP teams just cannot buy good English players from lower leagues these days. It seems if you play 10 games in the championship and are English your valued at 10 million. Teams can get the same type of player abroad for a tiny fraction of that.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Re: Dykes Proposals

There is plenty of British talent at youth level our U14s , 15s and 16s are up there with the best in Europe and 90% of those squads are British players.....these proposals will bridge a gap to the 1st team for these lads hopefully[/quote]
And we also have some real talents like Manu Garcia, Marco Lopes, Brahim and Zack Faour in there, which doesn't do anyone any harm, so why the complaints? If these players make it then it's a plus, if they don't they're potentially a source of income when sold on.[/quote]
I don't dispute we have some very talented young foreign players and I have no complaints about them being at City, but I want these players to make it with us not sod off home at the first opportunity and then to top it off end up playing for Benfica or Barca's or whoever's 1st team and being worth £10s of millions and we have picked up a couple of million for the kid in compo, this is why I don't think bringing in young foreign players in is the way forward for our academy and maybe the new proposals by the FA will limit any foreign talent making sure it is only the very best

Any kid that makes it at City now will have to be world class that is for sure and I think the 14s 15s and 16s will produce that kid[/quote]

Many studies have shown restrictions based on where you are born do not improve standards. These proposals will only increase the quantity of English players not the quality.

It will make no difference to the England team while reducing the quality of the Premiership. If we can't play more than 2 non eu players where will they go.....Spain and Germany. The problem is that our English youngsters are not prepared to work abroad.

 

[hihosilva]

What a fucking Dyke