Dynamo Kiev - Post Match Thread

[Lancet Fluke]

I just don't think picking out isolated incidents is a fair representation of the game as a whole. I've seen not a single C/B pairing in the league with the exception of maybe Huth and whoever the journeyman next to him is, not make basic errors. Been the season for it. Fucking hell Chelsea couldn't defend to save their lives with Mourinho in charge for the first four months of the season.

For me what's more worrying and more important, is that our attacking players find form and find a spark.

What we certainly can't cope with is things not being right at both ends of the pitch. We have been tighter at the back (Anfield aside) with Vinny back but have not really been good enough going forward. If we are honest, we pretty much know we are going to let in goals with regularity now that he's injured again so now, you're right, it is all about getting the attacking part of our game functioning ASAP. We know we have the players to do it, I'm not sure why it has gone so far off the boil or how it can be corrected.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I've been called an old **** who should be feeding the birds and soon I will be feeding the worms to the feed the birds once I have gone to the Kippax in the sky. I will leave all my hidden negativity to the Blue Moon Forum in my will.

If you think it is hard not to be negative about City, you've had it too good in recent years.

People misinterpret being negative about the current manager & his underperforming team, as being negative about City.

The two are totally unconnected in my case. It is because of the huge positivity that I have for the club, the squad & the academy that it does my head in watching this useless old troll drag it scratching & wheezing along the floor when it could, & should be flying, right now.

 

[Phil1]

Don't try justifying it then, because I am a cynical but observant old bugger and you are fitting into a pattern often seen in the 659M rags fans who claim on the internet that they go each week. They argue both that they never miss a match but praise the armchair brigade who cannot show their support in the traditional way.

I think there is a thread about BT pundits you could usefully contribute to rather than waste my time on this thread.

Haha! Your observation skills are letting you down but the cynicism is alive and well.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I've been called an old **** who should be feeding the birds and soon I will be feeding the worms to the feed the birds once I have gone to the Kippax in the sky. I will leave all my hidden negativity to the Blue Moon Forum in my will.

If you think it is hard not to be negative about City, you've had it too good in recent years.

That lovely catch all word "negativity" again.
We all know it's not possible to thank our lucky stars, appreciate where we are and still post analysis and concerns.
Hope the executors aren't called too soon.

 

[flb]

Oh Fuck off, I didn't say Pellegrini's selection was perfect did I? I said it made sense to rest Sterling, which it did. He hasn't played enough? He's played more than nearly everyone else in the team - so that's just complete bollocks.

Stop slavering and have a day off, have a look at how many minutes Raheem has played in games.

 

[BillyShears]

What we certainly can't cope with is things not being right at both ends of the pitch. We have been tighter at the back (Anfield aside) with Vinny back but have not really been good enough going forward. If we are honest, we pretty much know we are going to let in goals with regularity now that he's injured again so now, you're right, it is all about getting the attacking part of our game functioning ASAP. We know we have the players to do it, I'm not sure why it has gone so far off the boil or how it can be corrected.

I feel like we're a team caught between two stools this season. We have since Mancini's days been a possession based team which likes to keep the ball and pass the opposition to death. We lacked pace but we made up for that by passing teams to death and with clever movement. However we started this season in scintillating form as a much more counter attacking side with pace down both flanks in Sterling and Navas and Silva essentially playing in a midfield trio with Toure and Dinho. Maybe it's too much to say we were a counter attacking side, but we had the balance absolute spot on so we could keep possession if we needed to, but counter if we needed.

For various reasons that balance has slowly gone out of the side and we've only seen it really in the CL since those early parts of the season. Like many of these things depending on your point of view you can blame the manager solely, you can blame injuries + the manager, or you can blame the weather or the Pep announcement. For me I'd just like to see us give a really good account of ourselves in the what's left of the CL and what's left of the league.

 

[stonerblue]

Job done. Perfectly managed the game and never under any real pressure. Pisser about Vinny though.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Don't try justifying it then, because I am a cynical but observant old bugger and you are fitting into a pattern often seen in the 659M rags fans who claim on the internet that they go each week. They argue both that they never miss a match but praise the armchair brigade who cannot show their support in the traditional way.

I think there is a thread about BT pundits you could usefully contribute to rather than waste my time on this thread.

You're making an absolute idiot of yourself, I have been a season ticket holder since 1989 when I was first in a position to buy one. You know nothing about me and this is my point. If you look (I'm sure you can't be arsed), you will find that I didn't post yesterday between about 3pm and this morning at about 9am because I now live in Wales so I have to leave fairly early and I get back fairly late. But you know people can post on here on a smart phone from the ground and I have done that in the past so even people posting doesn't necessarily prove anything. You just sound like someone trying to say that you're a better blue than others and that your opinion is more valid and I hate that. The reason I specifically took exception to your post was that I think you were putting forward some kind of narrative that the negative posters are all part of your "armchair brigade" which firstly got on my tits because I was there, can't really be accused of being an armchair fan but felt like it was a lazy attempt to devalue the opinion of all posters who are currently being negative (which would include my opinion hence me picking you up on it). And I was interested in what I see as a ridiculous irony that the person you were wholeheartedly agreeing with and mentioning the armchair brigade to probably didn't go. (Apologies if you did go last night Billy but my understanding is that you don't get to many games these days as you now live abroad, sorry if I have this wrong. And rest assured if I am correct, I don't judge your opinion on whether you go or not).

 

[moenchengladbach blau]

A typical comment from people around me last night, as well as from blues I know personally was 'it's going to be a fucking stinker on Sunday'.

That's actually the view of most rag fans I know. That win lose or draw, it will be fucking shite, because it's two piss boring teams lacking in confidence managed by has beens.

Not heard many crowing about us being shite, or laughing at our comments, mostly just a case of 'yeah I know, so are we'.

If both teams play the way they have been doing, it will be the worst standard derby for many many years.

Not always the case of course that two average teans serve up a shit game though.

A typical comment from people around me last night, as well as from blues I know personally was 'it's going to be a fucking stinker on Sunday'.

That's actually the view of most rag fans I know. That win lose or draw, it will be fucking shite, because it's two piss boring teams lacking in confidence managed by has beens.

Not heard many crowing about us being shite, or laughing at our comments, mostly just a case of 'yeah I know, so are we'.

If both teams play the way they have been doing, it will be the worst standard derby for many many years.

Not always the case of course that two average teans serve up a shit game though.

A typical comment from people around me last night, as well as from blues I know personally was 'it's going to be a fucking stinker on Sunday'.

That's actually the view of most rag fans I know. That win lose or draw, it will be fucking shite, because it's two piss boring teams lacking in confidence managed by has beens.

Not heard many crowing about us being shite, or laughing at our comments, mostly just a case of 'yeah I know, so are we'.

If both teams play the way they have been doing, it will be the worst standard derby for many many years.

Not always the case of course that two average teans serve up a shit game though.

That lovely catch all word "negativity" again.
We all know it's not possible to thank our lucky stars, appreciate where we are and still post analysis and concerns.
Hope the executors aren't called too soon.

A typical comment from people around me last night, as well as from blues I know personally was 'it's going to be a fucking stinker on Sunday'.

That's actually the view of most rag fans I know. That win lose or draw, it will be fucking shite, because it's two piss boring teams lacking in confidence managed by has beens.

Not heard many crowing about us being shite, or laughing at our comments, mostly just a case of 'yeah I know, so are we'.

If both teams play the way they have been doing, it will be the worst standard derby for many many years.

Not always the case of course that two average teans serve up a shit game though.

I will look forward to the derby and everything that goes with it same as I have always done.

In the meantime I will work out how to reply without having all the previous quotes reshown.

 

[mad zab]

I just don't think picking out isolated incidents is a fair representation of the game as a whole. I've seen not a single C/B pairing in the league with the exception of maybe Huth and whoever the journeyman next to him is, not make basic errors. Been the season for it. Fucking hell Chelsea couldn't defend to save their lives with Mourinho in charge for the first four months of the season.

For me what's more worrying and more important, is that our attacking players find form and find a spark.

Those sort of incidents have been happening all season in our defence. I would also say Van Dijk/Fonte along with Alderweild/Vertoghen have been better centre half pairings than ours.

I also believe the biggest weakness in our defence is the way we play the offside trap. We hold the 18 yard line. This is a visible line that helps the attacking team when trying to break it down. Making it easier fort hem to time their runs. The fact our defence has been poor has put pressure on our forwards to score at least 2 per game. Of course there are other teams with poor defences, but I am only concerned about City.