Dynamo Kiev - Post Match Thread

[BillyShears]

When i disagree with them being 'professional' i don't mean to say they were 'unprofessional' i just don't think we played 'within ourselves' last night like some seem to be suggesting. I think we tried to actually win the game every bit as much as we did at Carrow Road, but in the end, we created next to nothing. And that's my worry.

Ah right my apologies, the implication in your original post was slightly different. I agree that the attacking players tried every bit to win the match as they did against Norwich. In fact you could see the disappointment in Kun's eyes at the final whistle. He probably knows himself that he's not been anywhere near as clinical as he can be. It is definitely a worry how lacking in fluidity our attacking play has been this season. It's hard to pin point what the issue is. I do think that having KDB in the side masked this to some degree because of his innate ability to do something magical and conjure a goal/assist out of nothing.

As I said earlier though, I think our best performances have been in the CL this season and that is at least some cause for optimism considering we're still in the competition.

 

[dublinblue12]

Poor game, but another milestone in club history reached, plus de bruyne back for quarters

 

[ono]

Ah right my apologies, the implication in your original post was slightly different. I agree that the attacking players tried every bit to win the match as they did against Norwich. In fact you could see the disappointment in Kun's eyes at the final whistle. He probably knows himself that he's not been anywhere near as clinical as he can be. It is definitely a worry how lacking in fluidity our attacking play has been this season. It's hard to pin point what the issue is. I do think that having KDB in the side masked this to some degree because of his innate ability to do something magical and conjure a goal/assist out of nothing.

As I said earlier though, I think our best performances have been in the CL this season and that is at least some cause for optimism considering we're still in the competition.

Totally agree, although i'm praying for a Benfica draw or maybe a Wolfsburg one.

 

[mad zab]

The real lack of confidence IMO is in the final third. I've never seen Silva/Kun collectively struggle to break through limited opposition as often as I have in recent weeks. With Yaya back the performance behind them was fine, even after the injury to Vinny.

Be interesting to see how we look in the derby. By rights our midfield three of Toure, Dinho, Fernando should run that game.

I would have to disagree. The only time we have showed confidence at the back is when Vinny has played. An example last night was when MDM played the ball to Mangala and he panicked and missed the ball completely that should have resulted in a clear chance for Kiev.

We haven't won two games in a row in the league since October. For me that is because of a lack of confidence throughout the team.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

So you were not at the match?

What makes you assume that, because I take issue with your narrative about the "armchair brigade"? I was there (I am a season ticket holder and on the CL scheme not that I should have to justify myself to you). If you want to argue with people's opinions then do so but all this armchair brigade stuff is something that does you no credit because as you have just found out, you don't have a fucking clue who goes and who doesn't.

 

[moenchengladbach blau]

It's the last 18 months as a whole that has made me feel a bit down about City. I've been accused of being a happy clapper a fair few times so I'm not really a negative poster, it's just hard not to be sometimes.

I've been called an old **** who should be feeding the birds and soon I will be feeding the worms to the feed the birds once I have gone to the Kippax in the sky. I will leave all my hidden negativity to the Blue Moon Forum in my will.

If you think it is hard not to be negative about City, you've had it too good in recent years.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Fairy nuff. I came back from the match to read a shower of negativity a lot of it time stamped just after the match finished. The trouble is the rag fans (including those in the media) read this pages and they revel in the negativity and will do so every day until Sunday. If those rags say that there are more moaners on here than were at the ground last night it is not easy to disagree.

A typical comment from people around me last night, as well as from blues I know personally was 'it's going to be a fucking stinker on Sunday'.

That's actually the view of most rag fans I know. That win lose or draw, it will be fucking shite, because it's two piss boring teams lacking in confidence managed by has beens.

Not heard many crowing about us being shite, or laughing at our comments, mostly just a case of 'yeah I know, so are we'.

If both teams play the way they have been doing, it will be the worst standard derby for many many years.

Not always the case of course that two average teans serve up a shit game though.

 

[BillyShears]

I would have to disagree. The only time we have showed confidence at the back is when Vinny has played. An example last night was when MDM played the ball to Mangala and he panicked and missed the ball completely that should have resulted in a clear chance for Kiev.

We haven't won two games in a row in the league since October. For me that is because of a lack of confidence throughout the team.

I just don't think picking out isolated incidents is a fair representation of the game as a whole. I've seen not a single C/B pairing in the league with the exception of maybe Huth and whoever the journeyman next to him is, not make basic errors. Been the season for it. Fucking hell Chelsea couldn't defend to save their lives with Mourinho in charge for the first four months of the season.

For me what's more worrying and more important, is that our attacking players find form and find a spark.

 

[Phil1]

I've been called an old **** who should be feeding the birds and soon I will be feeding the worms to the feed the birds once I have gone to the Kippax in the sky. I will leave all my hidden negativity to the Blue Moon Forum in my will.

If you think it is hard not to be negative about City, you've had it too good in recent years.

With high expectations come harsh realities.
I've had it great the last couple of years and the next few are no doubt going to be pretty good as well.
Before that I didn't see us lift a trophy until just after my 35th birthday. The last thing we won before that was a year before I was born in 1976 so I can appreciate the lean times. It doesn't stop me from thinking we could be even better off under the right guidance than we are now. That's all there is to it.

 

[moenchengladbach blau]

What makes you assume that, because I take issue with your narrative about the "armchair brigade"? I was there (I am a season ticket holder and on the CL scheme not that I should have to justify myself to you). If you want to argue with people's opinions then do so but all this armchair brigade stuff is something that does you no credit because as you have just found out, you don't have a fucking clue who goes and who doesn't.

Don't try justifying it then, because I am a cynical but observant old bugger and you are fitting into a pattern often seen in the 659M rags fans who claim on the internet that they go each week. They argue both that they never miss a match but praise the armchair brigade who cannot show their support in the traditional way.

I think there is a thread about BT pundits you could usefully contribute to rather than waste my time on this thread.