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Dzeko (Merged)
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balkanno
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Re: Dzeko
Stvarno Hare koji si ti moron, i ja kad sam ovo procito reko sebi koji je ovo retardirani ljakse boze sto serenda naokolo...
That ironic undertune wont help Edin anyway, so stop fucking think he is the greatest. He has to change hes movement, that is something what everyone can see if he really want good for Dzeko.
Still, theres no service and the Club doesnt play constant football, its aint time to rate him.
No17 said:Hare said:It seems that City have had enough of Dzeko.
Awful, clumsy, awkward are only some of the attributes that were given to him. He lacks talent. Twenty-seven mil for a "giraffe on roller skates," and
rather misterious signing as he obviously doesn't fit the system.
So how about you City let go of him in summer? This way your team will be improved and Dzeko will have the opportunity to exhibit his repertoire of awkwardness someplace else.
If the money's problem, we in Bosnia will collect your 27 mil and throw a bonus of 2 mil if you keep Bosnian posters "balkano" and "No17."
Peaceful farewell and everyone's happy.
You know that No17 is not a City fan, actually I've been laughing my socks off watching them...so bugger off to the Highlands and start being realistic...
a ovo o sakupljanju miliona i gluposti, u Bosni se ne moze sakupit 10 000 da se neko ode na operaciju tako da i za to mozes prestat da seres...
Stvarno Hare koji si ti moron, i ja kad sam ovo procito reko sebi koji je ovo retardirani ljakse boze sto serenda naokolo...
That ironic undertune wont help Edin anyway, so stop fucking think he is the greatest. He has to change hes movement, that is something what everyone can see if he really want good for Dzeko.
Still, theres no service and the Club doesnt play constant football, its aint time to rate him.
Re: Dzeko
Best post here so far. And spot on...
I'll be honest here. I'm Bosnian and since Dzeko started playing for City we pretty much watched every single game. Here's my opinion. For a team with quality players like that and for a team with that much money (sadly, that the main thing in modern football) City plays like crap. It looks like the team doesn't have a plan whatsoever, like Mancini picked up 11 guys from the street and sent them to play a match. And although those guys may be among the best in the world, with no proper tactics and discipline they will play like crap.
Dzeko is new guy in Premier league, he needs some time to adjust but he's a world class striker. But, even so, the guy is a target man. When I see him on the left side and not around the goal I always wander what the fuck is Mancini thinking. It looks like he gave a lot of money for a great player but doesn't know how to use him. And not only him but a lot of guys. And also, I don't think he has a lot of authority. Tevez does what he wants. He's a great player but when you have a player that's that much selfish the rest of the team has to be well arranged. This way, it looks like "give Tevez the ball, if he does something great, if not, well, that's it!". He had more than a few times the opportunity to pass the ball for a goal, instead he went for it himself where he wasn't in the ideal position. If he scores, great, but if he doesn't...
Since it's Dzeko I'm interested most, I see that he often goes out of the box to pick up the ball. That's not what he did in Wolfsburg or national team. He usually receives the ball in box and then finishes with goal. He has many talents but that's what Dzeko is, a target man.
I personally like Mancini but I don't think he's the manager for a team at this level. This team with Mourinho would play 30% better at least. This team has a problem in the middle, not in front. There are 11 individuals and strikers heavily depend on middle. You can't blame a striker for not scoring if he doesn't get useful balls.
Paulmcfc2703 said:He is a forward who needs service and quality crosses and we offer fuck all of these each game
Best post here so far. And spot on...
I'll be honest here. I'm Bosnian and since Dzeko started playing for City we pretty much watched every single game. Here's my opinion. For a team with quality players like that and for a team with that much money (sadly, that the main thing in modern football) City plays like crap. It looks like the team doesn't have a plan whatsoever, like Mancini picked up 11 guys from the street and sent them to play a match. And although those guys may be among the best in the world, with no proper tactics and discipline they will play like crap.
Dzeko is new guy in Premier league, he needs some time to adjust but he's a world class striker. But, even so, the guy is a target man. When I see him on the left side and not around the goal I always wander what the fuck is Mancini thinking. It looks like he gave a lot of money for a great player but doesn't know how to use him. And not only him but a lot of guys. And also, I don't think he has a lot of authority. Tevez does what he wants. He's a great player but when you have a player that's that much selfish the rest of the team has to be well arranged. This way, it looks like "give Tevez the ball, if he does something great, if not, well, that's it!". He had more than a few times the opportunity to pass the ball for a goal, instead he went for it himself where he wasn't in the ideal position. If he scores, great, but if he doesn't...
Since it's Dzeko I'm interested most, I see that he often goes out of the box to pick up the ball. That's not what he did in Wolfsburg or national team. He usually receives the ball in box and then finishes with goal. He has many talents but that's what Dzeko is, a target man.
I personally like Mancini but I don't think he's the manager for a team at this level. This team with Mourinho would play 30% better at least. This team has a problem in the middle, not in front. There are 11 individuals and strikers heavily depend on middle. You can't blame a striker for not scoring if he doesn't get useful balls.
MeatnSpudsMCFC
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Re: Dzeko
Even Buzzer thought he didnt contribute much,
"Disappointing last night but got to get right into Reading, can't underestimate them. Dzeko needs to do more"
Even Buzzer thought he didnt contribute much,
"Disappointing last night but got to get right into Reading, can't underestimate them. Dzeko needs to do more"
Re: Dzeko
I know what bad forwards look like, or at least what a forward playing badly looks like. There's a guy named Ibišević on our national team and he's often next to useless. It's not just that he rarely scores goals, it's that he so often bundles clear opportunities, messes up good team play by trying too much with the ball at his feet, gets in the way of other players and literally prevents us from scoring goals, etc.
I've watched 90% of his games since the move and Džeko has never looked like a particularly bad player, just a very ineffectual one. Several of the other marquee players in the City squad look just as misplaced. Does a team that cost however many hundreds of millions of pounds to assemble really consist of a bunch of talentless flops? No, it's the system - you don't have one.
I'd like to think I'm pretty neutral when looking at the English game. I've followed City since Džeko joined, but I don't have any particularly strong feelings for any of the Premiership clubs. Well, except maybe for your immediate neighbors, who I hate, but that's besides the point.
My point is, as a more-or-less objective outsider, I'd say that at least three clubs - those neighbors, Arsenal and even Tottenham - are miles ahead of you in terms of coherence, strategy and teamwork. I haven't seen enough of Liverpool and Chelsea this year, but I still suspect that if things don't change quickly, City's top 4 spot is going to come down to the wire.
Watching City has become painful at times. Dzeko has become a popular punching bag, but what the fuck was that against Wigan just now? The way people talk on this forum you'd think that before Džeko arrived you were a notch below Barcelona or 90s Milan. Honestly, this team has some fundamental problems, presumably stemming from your manager and an inconsistent transfer policy. I'm by no means joining the sensationalist English media, which, I've noticed in the past month or two, has some serious issues with City; I don't see any problem with City's sudden immense wealth. Still, it's mind blowing that after so many years of such immense wealth you only have one single player capable of providing any creative flair; that you literally don't have a single player capable of sending in a cross from the right flank.
Basically, I think the real problem is not in the forwards, but in the midfield, where you have an awesome collection of tough, physical defensive midfielders who can win back the ball and defend, but then very little order when you go forward. Especially when it comes to playing with width, creative possession football and quick execution in the final third, you have a surprising lack of options. I'm not convinced Mancini has any real masterplan for molding the great group of individuals at his disposal into a coherent team, or perhaps even real authority over some of these players.
I think you need a creative-minded, mature and unselfish attacking midfielder/winger type asap. Beyond that, I would give Mancini until this summer, not just to qualify for Europe, but show a significant improvement in team play and football philosophy. If not, and if Mourinho is available, I think the opportunity would be far too good to pass up.
I know what bad forwards look like, or at least what a forward playing badly looks like. There's a guy named Ibišević on our national team and he's often next to useless. It's not just that he rarely scores goals, it's that he so often bundles clear opportunities, messes up good team play by trying too much with the ball at his feet, gets in the way of other players and literally prevents us from scoring goals, etc.
I've watched 90% of his games since the move and Džeko has never looked like a particularly bad player, just a very ineffectual one. Several of the other marquee players in the City squad look just as misplaced. Does a team that cost however many hundreds of millions of pounds to assemble really consist of a bunch of talentless flops? No, it's the system - you don't have one.
I'd like to think I'm pretty neutral when looking at the English game. I've followed City since Džeko joined, but I don't have any particularly strong feelings for any of the Premiership clubs. Well, except maybe for your immediate neighbors, who I hate, but that's besides the point.
My point is, as a more-or-less objective outsider, I'd say that at least three clubs - those neighbors, Arsenal and even Tottenham - are miles ahead of you in terms of coherence, strategy and teamwork. I haven't seen enough of Liverpool and Chelsea this year, but I still suspect that if things don't change quickly, City's top 4 spot is going to come down to the wire.
Watching City has become painful at times. Dzeko has become a popular punching bag, but what the fuck was that against Wigan just now? The way people talk on this forum you'd think that before Džeko arrived you were a notch below Barcelona or 90s Milan. Honestly, this team has some fundamental problems, presumably stemming from your manager and an inconsistent transfer policy. I'm by no means joining the sensationalist English media, which, I've noticed in the past month or two, has some serious issues with City; I don't see any problem with City's sudden immense wealth. Still, it's mind blowing that after so many years of such immense wealth you only have one single player capable of providing any creative flair; that you literally don't have a single player capable of sending in a cross from the right flank.
Basically, I think the real problem is not in the forwards, but in the midfield, where you have an awesome collection of tough, physical defensive midfielders who can win back the ball and defend, but then very little order when you go forward. Especially when it comes to playing with width, creative possession football and quick execution in the final third, you have a surprising lack of options. I'm not convinced Mancini has any real masterplan for molding the great group of individuals at his disposal into a coherent team, or perhaps even real authority over some of these players.
I think you need a creative-minded, mature and unselfish attacking midfielder/winger type asap. Beyond that, I would give Mancini until this summer, not just to qualify for Europe, but show a significant improvement in team play and football philosophy. If not, and if Mourinho is available, I think the opportunity would be far too good to pass up.
Matty
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Re: Dzeko
Dzeko has been poor since he joined us. Some of this will be down to aclimatising to the style of play, and the pace of the Premiership. Some of this will be down to him sinply not finding any form at the moment, sometimes players hit patches where they underperform, Dzeko has hit one. However I think the main issue here is simply that the formation and tactics Mancini employs really doesn't suit Dzeko's natural style of play. He needs decent delivery into the box from out wide, he needs to be the central figure in the strike force, and he needs a partner that compliments his skill set. Tevez should really be that player, able to link up with Dzeko, able to drop deep to prevent Dzeko needing to do so, and able to provide Dzeko with chances in and around the box. Balotelli ISN'T the right player to pair Dzeko with, in fact I'm not sure who Balotelli IS the right player to pair with. He seems to be a very individual player, not one to form a partnership in the traditional sense.
To get the best from Dzeko he needs to start regularly, in the central position, be paired with Tevez, and have wide players actually cross the ball into the box. I can't see these things happening anytime soon so perhaps it's the right time to put Dzeko on the bench.
Dzeko has been poor since he joined us. Some of this will be down to aclimatising to the style of play, and the pace of the Premiership. Some of this will be down to him sinply not finding any form at the moment, sometimes players hit patches where they underperform, Dzeko has hit one. However I think the main issue here is simply that the formation and tactics Mancini employs really doesn't suit Dzeko's natural style of play. He needs decent delivery into the box from out wide, he needs to be the central figure in the strike force, and he needs a partner that compliments his skill set. Tevez should really be that player, able to link up with Dzeko, able to drop deep to prevent Dzeko needing to do so, and able to provide Dzeko with chances in and around the box. Balotelli ISN'T the right player to pair Dzeko with, in fact I'm not sure who Balotelli IS the right player to pair with. He seems to be a very individual player, not one to form a partnership in the traditional sense.
To get the best from Dzeko he needs to start regularly, in the central position, be paired with Tevez, and have wide players actually cross the ball into the box. I can't see these things happening anytime soon so perhaps it's the right time to put Dzeko on the bench.
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Re: Dzeko
Tevez or Balotelli couldn't score either
Dzeko is just an easy target for the brain dead morons on here because he is the newest signing. People like dw7 aren't true City fans and probally don't even go to the games.
Anyone could see although Dzeko's performance wasn't the best, at least he could string some passes together unlike his team mates.
Tevez or Balotelli couldn't score either
Dzeko is just an easy target for the brain dead morons on here because he is the newest signing. People like dw7 aren't true City fans and probally don't even go to the games.
Anyone could see although Dzeko's performance wasn't the best, at least he could string some passes together unlike his team mates.
GStar
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Re: Dzeko
What a shite dig that was by buzzer.
Dzeko needs the team to do more... he shouldn't be picking up the ball on the half way line without any blue shirt within 20 yeards of him, yet because we sit so deep and play so slow, that's more often that not where he finds himself.
MeatnSpudsMCFC said:Even Buzzer thought he didnt contribute much,
"Disappointing last night but got to get right into Reading, can't underestimate them. Dzeko needs to do more"
What a shite dig that was by buzzer.
Dzeko needs the team to do more... he shouldn't be picking up the ball on the half way line without any blue shirt within 20 yeards of him, yet because we sit so deep and play so slow, that's more often that not where he finds himself.
simon23
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Re: Dzeko
dzeko isnt a bad player (thought i dont think he is as good as some make out either, his first touch aint that great and he is not as strong in the air as people make out either) but at the moment he clearly doesnt fit into the system we are using. His lack of pace for me is a worry as well
for me he needs to have wingers and we dont play that way and rarely have under RM even when he has had them available
and using kolorov in a wide role isnt helping the lack of service either..
for me our best strike pair are balo and tev. I think that dzeko will have to take a back seat (on the bench ) from now till the end of the season...in our present system he is completely ineffective and trying to shoehorn him into the side could well effect our chances of getting into the top 4
dzeko isnt a bad player (thought i dont think he is as good as some make out either, his first touch aint that great and he is not as strong in the air as people make out either) but at the moment he clearly doesnt fit into the system we are using. His lack of pace for me is a worry as well
for me he needs to have wingers and we dont play that way and rarely have under RM even when he has had them available
and using kolorov in a wide role isnt helping the lack of service either..
for me our best strike pair are balo and tev. I think that dzeko will have to take a back seat (on the bench ) from now till the end of the season...in our present system he is completely ineffective and trying to shoehorn him into the side could well effect our chances of getting into the top 4
Stillsy
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Re: Dzeko
I'm praying he comes good because like iv said before I'm a big dzeko fan but those saying he doesn't get service is nonsence. He's always pissing around on the wings when he should be stood in the middle of the park and not move. Balotelli and Tevez seem to be racking up the goals so why can't dzeko
I'm praying he comes good because like iv said before I'm a big dzeko fan but those saying he doesn't get service is nonsence. He's always pissing around on the wings when he should be stood in the middle of the park and not move. Balotelli and Tevez seem to be racking up the goals so why can't dzeko