Ebola Outbreak

BigJoe#1 said:
jacko74 said:
BigJoe#1 said:
Sorry guys but I have to ask the question again!

On TV now (Tonight) they have said quite clearly, absolutely and most definitely that Ebola is only transferred through coming into contact with someone's vomit, diarreah or blood. The likelihood of me touching any of these products from any individual is zero, I suggest this is probably the same for everyone on here. So, given this scenario, why is it forecast that it is going to spread as rapidly as they are suggesting.

I just don't understand it.

Unless you NEVER leave your own house or you walk around in a full NBC suit then it's highly likely that you come into contact with any one of these body products on almost a daily basis.

Okay, fair point from you and Marco, both valid and believable.

So let's not play the message down then, let's be honest and tell it how it is and state how highly contagious it is.

well its very similar to HIV but that cant survive out of the body or in a deceased body, ebola can stay in a deceased body and remain active but like i say above i'm not sure if it or how long it can remain active in say spilt blood,it must be active for a while because some victims of ebola caught it from kissing the heads of the deceased, to give you a better idea of infection rates the bird flue H7NY was 10,000 times more infectious than ebola
 
The source of the infection for the nurse that has contracted it in Texas is unknown. We know it has to be a fluid transmission. That could be the residue of a sneeze, a touch of the hand, or it could be direct physical contact with a bodily fluid that is not airborne or on a surface?

The best minds in medicine in the US are perplexed on transmission and it appears the only real "fix" they can hang their hat on is using the blood plasma of the original doctor who contracted Enola and then recovered. So far, he has donated a gallon of blood to help per victims, but they can only transfuse patients with the same blood type, so that "fix" is highly limited.

To be sure, I'm not particularly looking forward to flying 350 people to China tomorrow, but I'd definitely choose it over flying to Africa!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The source of the infection for the nurse that has contracted it in Texas is unknown. We know it has to be a fluid transmission. That could be the residue of a sneeze, a touch of the hand, or it could be direct physical contact with a bodily fluid that is not airborne or on a surface?

The best minds in medicine in the US are perplexed on transmission and it appears the only real "fix" they can hang their hat on is using the blood plasma of the original doctor who contracted Enola and then recovered. So far, he has donated a gallon of blood to help per victims, but they can only transfuse patients with the same blood type, so that "fix" is highly limited.

To be sure, I'm not particularly looking forward to flying 350 people to China tomorrow, but I'd definitely choose it over flying to Africa!

How about stopping all flighs in and out of Africa for the next 3 weeks??

It might seem harsh, but aa least I would stop it spreading to other continents
 
Blue Hefner said:
ChicagoBlue said:
The source of the infection for the nurse that has contracted it in Texas is unknown. We know it has to be a fluid transmission. That could be the residue of a sneeze, a touch of the hand, or it could be direct physical contact with a bodily fluid that is not airborne or on a surface?

The best minds in medicine in the US are perplexed on transmission and it appears the only real "fix" they can hang their hat on is using the blood plasma of the original doctor who contracted Enola and then recovered. So far, he has donated a gallon of blood to help per victims, but they can only transfuse patients with the same blood type, so that "fix" is highly limited.

To be sure, I'm not particularly looking forward to flying 350 people to China tomorrow, but I'd definitely choose it over flying to Africa!

How about stopping all flighs in and out of Africa for the next 3 weeks??

It might seem harsh, but aa least I would stop it spreading to other continents


Totally agree they should have done this weeks ago and I know it sounds cruel but they shouldn't have started flying infected people to USA and Spain this has just put the virus in these countries
 
Heard on sky tonight that cases are doubling every 4weeks and 400 and something health workers have been infected and about half of them have died
 
Blue Hefner said:
ChicagoBlue said:
The source of the infection for the nurse that has contracted it in Texas is unknown. We know it has to be a fluid transmission. That could be the residue of a sneeze, a touch of the hand, or it could be direct physical contact with a bodily fluid that is not airborne or on a surface?

The best minds in medicine in the US are perplexed on transmission and it appears the only real "fix" they can hang their hat on is using the blood plasma of the original doctor who contracted Enola and then recovered. So far, he has donated a gallon of blood to help per victims, but they can only transfuse patients with the same blood type, so that "fix" is highly limited.

To be sure, I'm not particularly looking forward to flying 350 people to China tomorrow, but I'd definitely choose it over flying to Africa!

How about stopping all flighs in and out of Africa for the next 3 weeks??

It might seem harsh, but aa least I would stop it spreading to other continents

unless there is a world wide ban on crossing boarders it would be futile, for eg if we ban all incoming flights but france does not then they just come here via france, if an infected person goes to the states and coughs all over a guy who's coming to city v spurs he may be next to you at the game and no one would have any idea of the link to ebola
 
BlueBearBoots said:
Blue Hefner said:
ChicagoBlue said:
The source of the infection for the nurse that has contracted it in Texas is unknown. We know it has to be a fluid transmission. That could be the residue of a sneeze, a touch of the hand, or it could be direct physical contact with a bodily fluid that is not airborne or on a surface?

The best minds in medicine in the US are perplexed on transmission and it appears the only real "fix" they can hang their hat on is using the blood plasma of the original doctor who contracted Enola and then recovered. So far, he has donated a gallon of blood to help per victims, but they can only transfuse patients with the same blood type, so that "fix" is highly limited.

To be sure, I'm not particularly looking forward to flying 350 people to China tomorrow, but I'd definitely choose it over flying to Africa!

How about stopping all flighs in and out of Africa for the next 3 weeks??

It might seem harsh, but aa least I would stop it spreading to other continents


Totally agree they should have done this weeks ago and I know it sounds cruel but they shouldn't have started flying infected people to USA and Spain this has just put the virus in these countries

Agreed. But is it too late, or is it never too late? If the disease is as containable as they say then I would suggest putting the affected countries into what is in effect quarantine (for how long - who knows)? would be the lesser of two evils. The other evil being a pandemic. To Marcos point this would need to be a worldwide agreement.
 
Or they brought them to the usa and Spain to work on a possible cure. Perhaps getting the infrastructure set up in Africa would take too much time.
 
Crouchinho said:
Nothing to see here!!!

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.politicalears.com/blog/shock-claim-from-ghana-ebola-is-not-real/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.politicalears.com/blog/shock ... -not-real/</a>
Love it, that's quality. Reproduced below:

SHOCK CLAIM FROM GHANA: EBOLA IS NOT REAL
Posted by Staff on October 15, 2014

By Nana Kwome (Ghana Nurse)

People in the Western World need to know what’s happening here in West Africa. THEY ARE LYING!!! “Ebola” as a virus does NOT Exist and is NOT “Spread”. The Red Cross has brought a disease to 4 specific countries for 4 specific reasons and it is only contracted by those who receive treatments and injections from the Red Cross. That is why Liberians and Nigerians have begun kicking the Red Cross out of their countries and reporting in the news the truth. Now bear with me:

REASONS:

Most people jump to “depopulation” which is no doubt always on the mind of the West when it comes to Africa. But I assure you Africa can NEVER be depopulated by killing 160 people a day when thousands are born per day. So the real reasons are much more tangible.

Reason 1: This vaccine implemented sickness being “called” Ebola was introduced into West Africa for the end goal of getting troops on the ground in Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. If you remember America was just trying to get into Nigeria for “Boko Haram” #BULLSHIT but that fell apart when Nigerians started telling the truth. There ARE NO GIRLS MISSING. Global support fell through the floor, and a new reason was needed to get troops into Nigeria and steal the new oil reserves they have discovered.

Reason 2: Sierra Leone is the World’s Largest Supplier of Diamonds. For the past 4 months they have been on strike, refusing to provide diamonds due to horrible working conditions and slave pay. The West will not pay a fair wage for the resources because the idea is to keep these people surviving on rice bags and foreign aid so that they remain a source of cheap slave labor forever. A reason was also needed to get troops on the ground in Sierra Leone to force an end to the diamond miners strikes. This is not the first time this has been done. When miners refuse to work troops are sent in and even if they have to kill and replace them all, the only desire is to get diamonds back flowing out of the country.
Of course to launch multiple campaigns to invade these countries separately would be way too fishy. But something like “Ebola” allows access to an entire area simultaneously…

Reason 3: In addition to stealing Nigerian oil, and forcing Sierra Leone back to mining, troops have also been sent in to FORCE vaccinations (Deadly “Ebola” Poison) onto those Africans who are not foolish enough to take them willingly.

3000 troops are being sent in to make sure that this “poison” continues to spread, because again it is only spread through vaccination. As more and more news articles are released as they have been in Liberia, informing the populous of the US lies and manipulation, more and more Africans are refusing to visit the Red Cross. Troops will force these vaccinations upon the people to ensure the visible appearance of an Ebola pandemic. In addition to this they will protect the Red Cross from the Liberians and Nigerians who have been rightfully ejecting them from their countries.

Reason 4: Last but not least, the APPEARANCE of this Ebola “pandemic” (should Americans not catch on) will be used to scare the countless millions into taking an “Ebola vaccine” which in reality is the pandemic. Already they have started with stories of how it has been brought to the U.S. and has appeared in Dallas, how white doctors were c ured but black infected are not being allowed to be treated, etc.

ALL that will do is make blacks STRIVE to get the vaccine, because it appears that the “cure” is being held back from blacks. They will run out in droves to get it and then there will be serious problems. With all we have seen revealed about vaccines this year you would think we learned our lesson. All I can do is hope so, Because they rely on our ignorance to complete their agendas.

Ask yourself: If Ebola really was spread from person to person, instead of controlled spread through vaccination – then WHY would the CDC and the US Government continue to allow flights in and out of these countries with absolutely no regulation, Or At All? We have got to start thinking and sharing information globally because they do not give the true perspective of the people who live here in West Africa. They are lying for their own benefit and there aren’t enough voices out there with a platform to help share our reality. Hundreds of thousands have been killed, paralyzed and disabled by these and other “new” vaccines all over the world and we are finally becoming aware of it. Now what will we do with all this information?
 
Bird flu/Swine flu.. there's always something isn't there?

That's the World we live in, sensationalism.

If we are meant to die we are meant to die. feck it.

Most of my family are in the care sector and provide carer/support to people, so they are most at risk because they are in daily contact.

What are the classic signs of having it should I warn them about, and what about the guy who recovered from it?
 

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