Eden Hazard (continued)

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Red_fan said:
Football is littered with highly talented kids turning into failures. Ronaldo... gives great credit to Sir Alex .
Ferguson has a good record, he is your best asset, but he is 70 and health problems could mean he could retire at very short notice. City have a vibrant young team with a young manager. They have the best owners in the world. Most pundits are predicting a period of domination in European football. It is an exciting prospect for a 21 year old.
 
We have the Yaya, Silva and Aguero factor:
Players who were really good for their previous teams but have turned into some of the world's best in their positions under the guidance of City.

We have the long term manager factor:
Roberto is clearly here for the long haul, Alky Ferguson has a few years left at best(I'd estimate 2)

We have the Vincent Kompany factor:
What young up and coming player isn't going to want to play under the guidance of their national team captain

Then there's Paddy V, Clichy and Nasri, players who have came from the French league who will help him settle into his surroundings.

Add on top of that; Premier League Champions, got further in Europe than United did last season(not much further but further all the same) and better wages.

These are all the City "factors"
Chelsea have the Champions League factor and maybe a decent-ish history of taking players from the French league and developing them.

IF Hazard has to make the choice out of all 3 teams, for his development, the obvious choice is City. If he was purely interested in his development as a player, he would go to Arsenal and he would accept less wages for a starring role in the team but we all know that's not what he's after, he's after a chance to shine on the biggest stage of them all and he can most definitely do that in our team more than any other.
 
Goo said:
Red_fan said:
BooksReject said:
Fuck me sideways - the Ronaldo factor - what even is that? So he goes to you for purely footballing reasons, but would only come to us for the money? Like the rest of our squad? You are indeed mightily deluded raggy boy.

Point out where I said that he'd only go to City for the money?

Like it or not, we have a great track record of developing young players and turning Ronaldo into the superstar he is today is a famous example of that.

Hazard may well develop the same way at City but it's obvious to anyone (that isn't deluded) that for the moment we have a far superior track record of giving young players time and helping them realise their potential.


Don't City have the most academy graduates of any premier league team?

Not 100% but pretty sure I've read that.

I was fairly sure we held that distinction?
 
Why's nobody thinking about the Ronaldo factor? Surely must play a huge role in his decision! :S
 
BooksReject said:
Red_fan said:
BooksReject said:
Fuck me sideways - the Ronaldo factor - what even is that? So he goes to you for purely footballing reasons, but would only come to us for the money? Like the rest of our squad? You are indeed mightily deluded raggy boy.

Point out where I said that he'd only go to City for the money?

Like it or not, we have a great track record of developing young players and turning Ronaldo into the superstar he is today is a famous example of that.

Hazard may well develop the same way at City but it's obvious to anyone (that isn't deluded) that for the moment we have a far superior track record of giving young players time and helping them realise their potential.

Check your actual quote - the bold bit. Can't see anywhere in that short sentence anything at all about him having the opportunity to play with the League Champions, and some of the best players in the world...Aguero, Silva, Toure et al - just the reference to money. Sorry I failed to read your real meaning into that.....

I just meant that I think he'd find it harder to get into the position he wants in the City team, but the extra money you'd offer might still bag him. I didn't mean it in the way you thought, only an idiot would think a player is just signing for the money at City these days, it's quite clear you will be competing for trophies.
 
Red_fan said:
jonmcity said:
Who wouldn't want to play in a team like ours? Its a joy

Maybe somebody who wants to play in their best position and to play regularly ?

The Madrid team is better and he reportedly turned them down last Summer when Zidane was pushing hard for a transfer, all because he didn't think he wouldn't play regularly or in his best position.


So you admit that the city team is better than yours. Well done for Keeping going, You will need that thick skin for the next twenty years.
 
Plain Speaking said:
Red_fan said:
Football is littered with highly talented kids turning into failures. Ronaldo... gives great credit to Sir Alex .
Ferguson has a good record, he is your best asset, but he is 70 and health problems could mean he could retire at very short notice. City have a vibrant young team with a young manager. They have the best owners in the world. Most pundits are predicting a period of domination in European football. It is an exciting prospect for a 21 year old.

Again, I never said City wouldn't be an exciting prospect for him. But I think United would be too and the possibility of playing more regularly and in his favored position (along with the Ferguson's track record of developing youth) he could possibly chose us.

I think you're exaggerating with 'health problems', it was a heavy nose bleed! I reckon he'll be around for a few years yet.
 
I think someone said it already but if a player is looking for stability then we are the perfect choice.

Ferguson's got 1 or 2 years left and then there will be chaos at united.
Chelsea could get a great manager but it's risky.

Both of those teams have to do massive rebuilding. At least a lot more than us. Again that brings risk.

And whether the player realizes or not there is a great togetherness between our playing and coaching staff. I can't imagine the same at united when Rooney is about. Chelsea perhaps have a good atmosphere but for long when players could be soon chopped and shipped out.

All in all I think we are the right choice for a player looking for a place to enjoy football.

It's not even true as they all offer the same wages really but...

Come for the money, Stay for the Team!
 
Red_fan said:
Plain Speaking said:
Red_fan said:
Football is littered with highly talented kids turning into failures. Ronaldo... gives great credit to Sir Alex .
Ferguson has a good record, he is your best asset, but he is 70 and health problems could mean he could retire at very short notice. City have a vibrant young team with a young manager. They have the best owners in the world. Most pundits are predicting a period of domination in European football. It is an exciting prospect for a 21 year old.

Again, I never said City wouldn't be an exciting prospect for him. But I think United would be too and the possibility of playing more regularly and in his favored position (along with the Ferguson's track record of developing youth) he could possibly chose us.

I think you're exaggerating with 'health problems', it was a heavy nose bleed! I reckon he'll be around for a few years yet.

So essentially what your inferring is that he's not good enough for us but he is for your inferior team.
 
city diehard said:
Red_fan said:
Plain Speaking said:
Ferguson has a good record, he is your best asset, but he is 70 and health problems could mean he could retire at very short notice. City have a vibrant young team with a young manager. They have the best owners in the world. Most pundits are predicting a period of domination in European football. It is an exciting prospect for a 21 year old.

Again, I never said City wouldn't be an exciting prospect for him. But I think United would be too and the possibility of playing more regularly and in his favored position (along with the Ferguson's track record of developing youth) he could possibly chose us.

I think you're exaggerating with 'health problems', it was a heavy nose bleed! I reckon he'll be around for a few years yet.

So essentially what your inferring is that he's not good enough for us but he is for your inferior team.

Lol, no. I'm inferring that he has a decision to make, and it isn't an easy one. I think he agrees with me, otherwise he would have announced whee he was going to go by now, don't ya think?
 
Red_fan said:
BooksReject said:
Red_fan said:
Absolutely no idea mate. It seems like Eden Hazard is the only one that knows that.

Some signs look good. IMO he would have more chance of playing in his preferred position with us (and more regularly) and we do have the Ronaldo factor. It must surely be a massive attraction for Hazard to see how we developed Ronaldo the way we did. And then there are a couple of reports in France that he's leaning towards us, and Sky reported the same thing. On the other hand it's likely that City and Chelsea will have offered significantly more money.

As I said though, I have no idea where he'll end up, completely up in the air.


Fuck me sideways - the Ronaldo factor - what even is that? So he goes to you for purely footballing reasons, but would only come to us for the money? Like the rest of our squad? You are indeed mightily deluded raggy boy.

Point out where I said that he'd only go to City for the money?

Like it or not, we have a great track record of developing young players and turning Ronaldo into the superstar he is today is a famous example of that.

Hazard may well develop the same way at City but it's obvious to anyone (that isn't deluded) that for the moment we have a far superior track record of giving young players time and helping them realise their potential.

How long will Slur Alky be around to do that do you think?
 
cyclops said:
Red_fan said:
BooksReject said:
Fuck me sideways - the Ronaldo factor - what even is that? So he goes to you for purely footballing reasons, but would only come to us for the money? Like the rest of our squad? You are indeed mightily deluded raggy boy.

Point out where I said that he'd only go to City for the money?

Like it or not, we have a great track record of developing young players and turning Ronaldo into the superstar he is today is a famous example of that.

Hazard may well develop the same way at City but it's obvious to anyone (that isn't deluded) that for the moment we have a far superior track record of giving young players time and helping them realise their potential.

How long will Slur Alky be around to do that do you think?

2-3 years.
 
Red_fan said:
Plain Speaking said:
Red_fan said:
Football is littered with highly talented kids turning into failures. Ronaldo... gives great credit to Sir Alex .
Ferguson has a good record, he is your best asset, but he is 70 and health problems could mean he could retire at very short notice. City have a vibrant young team with a young manager. They have the best owners in the world. Most pundits are predicting a period of domination in European football. It is an exciting prospect for a 21 year old.

Again, I never said City wouldn't be an exciting prospect for him. But I think United would be too and the possibility of playing more regularly and in his favored position (along with the Ferguson's track record of developing youth) he could possibly chose us.

I think you're exaggerating with 'health problems', it was a heavy nose bleed! I reckon he'll be around for a few years yet.
If the big magnet of your club is Ferguson, Hazard could be on shaky ground. Ferguson was let off driving on the motorway hard shoulder many years ago due to his "health problems". You must admit he is the twilight of his managerial career and there are not too many top managers still working over 70. He could pack up at short notice.
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Red_fan said:
cyclops said:
Red_fan said:
Point out where I said that he'd only go to City for the money?

Like it or not, we have a great track record of developing young players and turning Ronaldo into the superstar he is today is a famous example of that.

Hazard may well develop the same way at City but it's obvious to anyone (that isn't deluded) that for the moment we have a far superior track record of giving young players time and helping them realise their potential.

How long will Slur Alky be around to do that do you think?

2-3 years.


I bet youre not around this website posting in 2-3 years
 
Red_fan said:
city diehard said:
Red_fan said:
Again, I never said City wouldn't be an exciting prospect for him. But I think United would be too and the possibility of playing more regularly and in his favored position (along with the Ferguson's track record of developing youth) he could possibly chose us.

I think you're exaggerating with 'health problems', it was a heavy nose bleed! I reckon he'll be around for a few years yet.

So essentially what your inferring is that he's not good enough for us but he is for your inferior team.

Lol, no. I'm inferring that he has a decision to make, and it isn't an easy one. I think he agrees with me, otherwise he would have announced whee he was going to go by now, don't ya think?

Probably waiting on a few more reasons than playing in his 'fave position' confirmation don't you think? And if your untouchable youth development policy was the attraction, he would be there slipping on his new revolting gingham top right now, surely? The fact that he isn't speaks volumes...
 
Red_fan said:
Goo said:
Red_fan said:
Point out where I said that he'd only go to City for the money?

Like it or not, we have a great track record of developing young players and turning Ronaldo into the superstar he is today is a famous example of that.

Hazard may well develop the same way at City but it's obvious to anyone (that isn't deluded) that for the moment we have a far superior track record of giving young players time and helping them realise their potential.


Don't City have the most academy graduates of any premier league team?

Not 100% but pretty sure I've read that.

I was fairly sure we held that distinction?


I think you are getting confused - despite what the media would have you believe, smalling, de gea, jones etc were bought for large sums of money, not developed through your youth set up
 
Tevez City said:
I feel he will sign for Ushited by Monday.

You 'feel' but you haven't a clue, like the rest of us<br /><br />-- Fri May 25, 2012 3:39 pm --<br /><br />
BringBackSwales said:
Red_fan said:
Goo said:
Don't City have the most academy graduates of any premier league team?

Not 100% but pretty sure I've read that.

I was fairly sure we held that distinction?


I think you are getting confused - despite what the media would have you believe, smalling, de gea, jones etc were bought for large sums of money, not developed through your youth set up

Hahahaha perfectly put!
 
We have a better team, younger manager and we are champions of England(I'll never get bored of saying that).

Also all this 'game time'. He'll get enough, we will be in and hopefully go far in 4 competitions. And if he isn't confident enough in his own ability to force his way into the team then I'm not sure if he has the right mentality to play for us
 
Hes coming to us!! We are the champions, we play the exciting football, we have better fans and we have the money!

Why on earth he would ever consider going to united or chelsea when we want him I dont know!! Hes obviously gona be a starter here at city, hes a fantastic player and just what we need.
 
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