Im not dissing Joe, and yes he played his part in our early successes no one would argue that. I do think many though could see he had several weaknesses. Again, Golden Gloves are won by the team, its just a nice touch to give the keeper praise they would not normally get
I simply dont rate him as much as some do.
Your second para seems to contradict your first though if I am reading it correctly
what am saying is to be world class you have to play in the best teams or play at united or liverpool ??? so manchester city be top dogs in england joe was a great great keeper, yes it helps if your back 4 in front of you is good, but that is also down to your keeper with control and placement when it comes to corners free kicks and stop stopping
the team of the decade you must start with joe in goal, yes ederson will over take joe in the next 10 years with being a special keeper and a different style the game now needs, but for the foundation of what we are today joe hart is the only pick for me and its to early for ederson to take the spot ??