Edin Dzeko (contract update page 370)

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80s Shorts said:
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Ah yes I remember it well.Dzeko and lampposts.
Has anything changed ?? ;)
 
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noise said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
noise said:
As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".
That's a bold statement.

Sorry you're right, I should rephrase. Nobody on here is insecure enough to shove Sergio's achievements down each others throat, everyone already knows how good he is.
 
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CaliforniaBlue said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
noise said:
As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".
I agree that no single player is responsible for winning a football match (or the league), and therefore I certainly don't think "Dzeko won us the league" last season. However, it's not true to suggest that only Dzeko fans are stupid and biased enough to say such a thing. I think you'll find a large number of people (including many on here) who said the same thing about Tevez in 2012-13.
That large number of people need to remember that Tevez didn't win us the league in 2012/13. The rats won the league that year.
 
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aguero93:20 said:
CaliforniaBlue said:
Puppet Master Silva said:
Because no one else is stupid enough to post "Without Sergio we wouldn't of won the league".
I agree that no single player is responsible for winning a football match (or the league), and therefore I certainly don't think "Dzeko won us the league" last season. However, it's not true to suggest that only Dzeko fans are stupid and biased enough to say such a thing. I think you'll find a large number of people (including many on here) who said the same thing about Tevez in 2012-13.
That large number of people need to remember that Tevez didn't win us the league in 2012/13. The rats won the league that year.
Ha ha! How time flies! 2011-12 of course.
 
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I really hope we sign him to a new contract soon. He is a superb player. I have been critical of him but he has really proven me wrong on every point. I am now a believer. I want him to be here for years to come.
 
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Soo happy to see Edin finally win majority of City fans over.

I never doubted him, because I followed him with Bosnia NT and Wolfsburg before...

Has his flaws (but doesnt everyone??) but is a team player, great goalscorer, and most importantly - a WINNER. And you always want those.



Like in Wolfsburg (two years ago, remember?), one day near the end of his career he might step on the Etihad to hear his name chanted and receive rounds of applause...even if for another team (that moment during Wolfsburg vs. City when he was introduced really speaks a lot about Edin).
 
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Made up for him. One of the biggest criticisms thrown at him has been his poor touch and lack of strength, both of which were his biggest positives against Newcastle. He spoke well afterwards and looks like he's enjoying himself being part of our great club. It's going to be a big season for him this year, I expect him to hit 25/30 in all competitions.
 
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noise said:
Matty said:
noise said:
It's pretty obvious that he was instrumental in the 2nd part of the season. Just his snide time wasting against Everton may have made the difference.

I think the issue here is we're talking in hypotheticals as if they are facts. It's clear that Edin Dzeko's goals helped us a long way towards winning the title last season, however so did the actions of many different players throughout the season. Negredo's goals, Yaya's goals, Kompany's defending, Kolarov's crossing, in short everyone who played made a contribution so you could, arguably, pick anyone who wore a City shirt last season and claim, "we wouldn't have won the title last season" if it wasn't for them, as who knows what would have happened if they hadn't been on the pitch and someone else had been. The probable here is that, were Dzeko to have been unavailable for the last 6 months of the season then someone would have played in his place, we'd have still had 11 men on the pitch. How on earth are we supposed to know, A - Who that "someone" would have been and B - What contribution they would have made to our title push? It's impossible to assess as it's a purely hypothetical situation with no way of categorically proving anything. The only thing we can be sure of, the only thing that is a fact, is that the contribution Dzeko put in helped us win the league. Would we have won the league without him, but with someone else? Absolutely impossible to know.
As far as I know it's only when we talk about Dzeko that the old, "any other player could have done it" deriding takes place.

Sigh.

Yet again, you've read what I've written and then decided to summarise it by claiming I've said something totally different.

At NO POINT have I stated that "any other player could have done it". In fact what I've said is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to know what any other player could or couldn't have done, as it's a hypothetical situation! I can't prove that, had we played Jovetic instead of Dzeko, he'd have scored loads of goals and we'd have still won the league, just as you can't prove, had we played Jovetic instead of Dzeko, he'd have scored hardly any and we'd have lost the league.

My point is clear but, as you're willfully choosing to ignore it and claim I'm saying something else entirely, I'll make it again.

Dzeko contributed hugely to City winning the league.

He wasn't the only one who made a contribution, and there were several other players who made huge contributions

It is impossible to claim, however, that without him we'd have lost the league.

It is impossible to assess the impact on our results of someone else playing instead of Dzeko.

I'd have thought the above was crystal clear.
 

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