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Danbert said:
I get my views from what i see with my own eyes, and what i see with my own eyes is that the EDL are a multi ethnic, working class protest group and the UAF are a mish mash of middle class, aren't i cool and trendy, clueless hippies whose sole purpose is to stifle and shut down free speech by any means, including violence. They, the UAF are the fascists in my book
pick your knuckles up you will get gravel rash
 
Danbert said:
their view seems to be that if you're born in England, accept English values, you are English, end of.

Can you become English despite not being born here? I had no control of where I popped out but would terribly love to be accepted by the No Surrender chanters despite having an inappropriate birth certificate.

It's not unreasonable to expect immigrants to learn the language and respect our culture - but it's not reasonable to ask immigrants to leave everything about their own culture behind when they come to live here.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Danbert said:
No i don't...... but from what i've seen of them (with my own eyes) it looks like anyone can join their protests regardless of colour or religion, to me their view seems to be that if you're born in England, accept English values, you are English, end of.

What if you're born in England but don't accept English values?

Or if you're not born in England but you do accept English values?

Or if you're born in England and you accept English values but you're mistaken as to what they are?

Or what if you're born in England and you sort of accept English values, but you've got some reservations?

What does that mean you are?

Oh and by the way where is this prescriptive list of 'English values'? Have you got a link?

Nope.
Nor a clue.
Not a great deal of point arguing with someone who considers Unite Against Fascism to be a fascist organisation.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Danbert said:
No i don't...... but from what i've seen of them (with my own eyes) it looks like anyone can join their protests regardless of colour or religion, to me their view seems to be that if you're born in England, accept English values, you are English, end of.

What if you're born in England but don't accept English values?

Or if you're not born in England but you do accept English values?

Or if you're born in England and you accept English values but you're mistaken as to what they are?

Or what if you're born in England and you sort of accept English values, but you've got some reservations?

What does that mean you are?

Oh and by the way where is this prescriptive list of 'English values'? Have you got a link?


Although I was born in a haiari wood hut in the furthest reaches of the lands drained by the Orinoco, and educated by the forest dwelling natives as Papa was too busy wrestling with the diplomatic demands of being Cultural Consul (Ballet and Kilt Weaving,) and Mama was oft afflicted by the vapours (usually of Asda Tomato and Vegetable Cuppa-Ready Soup,) I consider myself fully English and have never disrupted Council meetings by concealing myself in the Mayor's Robing Parlour and picking off Liberal Democrats with poison darts from a blow pipe.
 
sweynforkbeard said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
What if you're born in England but don't accept English values?

Or if you're not born in England but you do accept English values?

Or if you're born in England and you accept English values but you're mistaken as to what they are?

Or what if you're born in England and you sort of accept English values, but you've got some reservations?

What does that mean you are?

Oh and by the way where is this prescriptive list of 'English values'? Have you got a link?


Although I was born in a haiari wood hut in the furthest reaches of the lands drained by the Orinoco, and educated by the forest dwelling natives as Papa was too busy wrestling with the diplomatic demands of being Cultural Consul (Ballet and Kilt Weaving,) and Mama was oft afflicted by the vapours (usually of Asda Tomato and Vegetable Cuppa-Ready Soup,) I consider myself fully English and have never disrupted Council meetings by concealing myself in the Mayor's Robing Parlour and picking off Liberal Democrats with poison darts from a blow pipe.

You are a genius Sir! ;-)
 
sweynforkbeard said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
What if you're born in England but don't accept English values?

Or if you're not born in England but you do accept English values?

Or if you're born in England and you accept English values but you're mistaken as to what they are?

Or what if you're born in England and you sort of accept English values, but you've got some reservations?

What does that mean you are?

Oh and by the way where is this prescriptive list of 'English values'? Have you got a link?


Although I was born in a haiari wood hut in the furthest reaches of the lands drained by the Orinoco, and educated by the forest dwelling natives as Papa was too busy wrestling with the diplomatic demands of being Cultural Consul (Ballet and Kilt Weaving,) and Mama was oft afflicted by the vapours (usually of Asda Tomato and Vegetable Cuppa-Ready Soup,) I consider myself fully English and have never disrupted Council meetings by concealing myself in the Mayor's Robing Parlour and picking off Liberal Democrats with poison darts from a blow pipe.

Poppycock and piffle sir!!!

I have it from the highest authorities that you were personally responsible for the now infamous "Smithy Bridge whoopee cushion incident"of 1987! The Lady Mayoress never did recover and is still in an infirm condition in a Swiss sanatorium to this very day.



I've got my eye on you Sweyn(if that is indeed your real name).
 
pinkwheeltrim said:
sweynforkbeard said:
Although I was born in a haiari wood hut in the furthest reaches of the lands drained by the Orinoco, and educated by the forest dwelling natives as Papa was too busy wrestling with the diplomatic demands of being Cultural Consul (Ballet and Kilt Weaving,) and Mama was oft afflicted by the vapours (usually of Asda Tomato and Vegetable Cuppa-Ready Soup,) I consider myself fully English and have never disrupted Council meetings by concealing myself in the Mayor's Robing Parlour and picking off Liberal Democrats with poison darts from a blow pipe.

Poppycock and piffle sir!!!

I have it from the highest authorities that you were personally responsible for the now infamous "Smithy Bridge whoopee cushion incident"of 1987! The Lady Mayoress never did recover and is still in an infirm condition in a Swiss sanatorium to this very day.



I've got my eye on you Sweyn(if that is indeed your real name).


I can assure you Mr Trim (previously known as pinkwheelbloated before the successful sessions with the Rosemary Conley Hip and Thigh Diet) that the Mayoress of Smithy Bridge is in fact in a sane condition in a Swiss infirmary.
 
did anything happen then?

i dipped in and out of the news but nothing was on.
 

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