Elano opens account

Unknown_Genius said:
Bigga said:
Funny enough, he must have offered SOMETHING to a team that was winning more than 1-0's at home...

So you're saying if Elano had played we would have won 5-0 or something? 2 years ago we played Derby, promoted team, first game at home, and only won 1-0, with Elano playing. I'm sure I saw the team creating good chances against Wolves, unless you're suggesting Elano would have scored them himself. At the end of the day, a win is a win, I would much rather have 1-0 home victories, if it meant being better on the road, than big home victories, and being absolutly hopeless away.

At least you admit there's somewhat less of a creative spark!
 
To Bigga...did you not watch Elano during the first season he was here when he played in his preferred position under Sven? He had some amazing games but between them he wasn't just average, he was awful!
 
sboroMCFC said:
To Bigga...did you not watch Elano during the first season he was here when he played in his preferred position under Sven? He had some amazing games but between them he wasn't just average, he was awful!

I thought Elano was pretty good for the first half under Sven (as were the team in general) when he was played in that preferred postion.

In the second half I thought he played a much more defensive role, and I posted on here at the time that he really needs to be getting the ball in positions where he can do real damage. Whether that was under instruction or his own instincts who knows. Under Hughes I don't think he had much of a chance in a forward role, I thought when he played on the right (toward the end of the season) he was exceptional. I only wish he was tried there earlier in the season when Vass was getting his run of matches and our results were poor.

As for his "awful" games I think he was a victim of his own success. There have been plenty of matches in the past few years where Elano has been no worse than the majority, yet he was consistently the one that got singled out for criticism.
 
BillyShears said:
Bigga said:
Maybe you spoke to Bellamy who loves Hughes arse end up!!

Shit comment with no relevance. If you wanna know who the player was and want any details about the conversation had, send me a PM...

You seem to forget that both the manager and the player had a problem. And wasn't this "last 8 weeks of the season" ultimately the part that bought Hughes time?? Aside from that, was it the manager that got himself out of a rut by playing Ela or Ela deciding to want a part of the future by playing better?

Come on, Mr Shears, answer that one.

The last 8 weeks of the season did not make or break Hughes' season. We won nothing and didn't qualify for Europe.

As for the second question, it was Blumer knuckling down and putting a shift in rather than flouncing around the pitch and disappearing at the first sign of resistance. Like I said, too little too late, which was born out in the fact he was sold...

Like I said at the very beginning of this exchange, I understand you rate Elano higher than other people do - but stop trying to make him out to be some sort of hero who was treated badly by Hughes. He was a ****, all ends up, and people within the club (players as well as staff) are glad to see the back of him...

The first part has plenty of relevance considering that Bel's was brought in to give Hughes 'a voice in the team'! But, we'll bypass that at your insistence, yeah?

As for the second part
"it was Blumer knuckling down and putting a shift in rather than flouncing around the pitch and disappearing at the first sign of resistance. Like I said, too little too late, which was born out in the fact he was sold..." a little bit of tweaking here and there and you could apply that to Sturridge!!

All we can really say is, no matter how talented you are, if your face doesn't fit, you're gone without a second thought. No like-for-like replacement for Ela before selling, is a case in point.
 
I will say also that when your manager leaks a negative story about you to the press before the first training session, and when you struggle to get a consecutive run of matches it is pretty hard to find some form.
 
Bigga said:
Unknown_Genius said:
So you're saying if Elano had played we would have won 5-0 or something? 2 years ago we played Derby, promoted team, first game at home, and only won 1-0, with Elano playing. I'm sure I saw the team creating good chances against Wolves, unless you're suggesting Elano would have scored them himself. At the end of the day, a win is a win, I would much rather have 1-0 home victories, if it meant being better on the road, than big home victories, and being absolutly hopeless away.

At least you admit there's somewhat less of a creative spark!

I would rather have less of a creative spark, that only sparked on the odd occasion, and a better all round team, which is what we have without Elano.

I will say also that when your manager leaks a negative story about you to the press before the first training session, and when you struggle to get a consecutive run of matches it is pretty hard to find some form.

All this making out that Elano is some sort of hero who was treated harshly and unfairly by the evil tyrant Hughes is bullsh*t. As is all the Hughes is a workman like, graft manager, who can't handle creative players, is also crap.
 
Unknown_Genius said:
Bigga said:
So which of the current team is your 'great', then?? I'm assuming Bellamy if you're going by that criteria...

Which member of the current team is my great? Stephen Ireland, because he was consistent last season, unlike Elano. You can mock Bellamy all you like, but he was excellent on the opening day at Ewood Park. Where was Elano in the last 2 visits to Blackburn? I don't think I saw him.... I think the physical games were too much for him. Bellamy would give more to City on a consistent basis than Elano.

Bellamy was absolutely dire against Wolves and Ireland had his bad games last season as well.
 

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