elderly drivers

A computer simulation is better than nothing I suppose, certainly better than in the UK at present..

As far as I'm aware elderly drivers are ok to drive however good or bad their health is.
I think that as you get older perhaps for some of us normal tasks get less important so actually taking the computer test is maybe a task too far so perhaps it serves a purpose that way. No pass no licence.

Spot checks by police are a feature of driving in Spain with your licence usually needing to be shown.
They know ( via normal number plate technology) the car and who it is insured for so just need the photo on your licence to verify your identity.
 
The organisation I am part of deals with this. I would be very careful about stopping older drivers full stop as some that we see that have been referred to us by various health professionals are still safe to drive, and retain the learned skills and still have the mental capacity to still drive.

We assess drivers with medical drivers (and drivers without medical conditions referred to us by the police).

At the current moment as has been said previously after 70 the driver has to reapply for their licence, but it is self regulating. The issue is that a lot has to be put on the GPs and Consultants when trying to determine if someone is safe to drive, for which they really don't have the time to do. Our department (and national organisation) aren't big enough to see them all.

Re: the Spanish model. We were involved in the European organisation looking into this (which the Spanish are part of) and with providers of these simulators and in the research we did it was found there was no real correlation between the simulators and a practical assessment of somebodies driving.

It is a difficult situation and we are constantly trying to find accurate tests that reflect a real life driving situation.

The other issue is the DVLA medical group are so far behind with medical enquiries that by the time they get the information it is out of date and if a older driver is told not to drive until the DVLA make their decision then they de-skill and can become dangerous.

Another issue we have is the lack of "after care" when someone is told to stop driving as a lot of the organisations that help keep people mobile after driving cessation means family members are reluctant to stop older relatives from driving as they do not want to look after them. Again our organisation are expanding into this area and again it is just too big for us but we can't help everyone.

It is a constant struggle to find the best way forward short of self driving cars!
The Spanish Model as you term it seems to change each time I am forced to take it, I assume to improve its purpose.

On a different post I suggested the very fact that this test is necessary leads to self exclusion by perhaps the most vulnerable.
 
I was shocked when my father in law gave up his. He released himself that he was out of his depth and just stopped driving. What i want to know is why the women need to stop a car length from the junction line and then wonder why they cannot see down the road?
 
I was shocked when my father in law gave up his. He released himself that he was out of his depth and just stopped driving. What i want to know is why the women need to stop a car length from the junction line and then wonder why they cannot see down the road?
I suppose the other way of looking at is older people have managed to survive the pressures of life with a mixture pof fortune and careful living. Certainly they drive slower which is surely helpful should an accident occur.
I remember a car sticker many years ago on the back of my elderly uncles car window which said =

"Caution, driver obeying the speed limit"
 
My dad, at middle-age was a speed demon - driving very fast on highways and getting several speeding tickets - this was back when the speed limit was 70 miles per hour in the USA - and you could probably safely do 75 or even 80 and not get ticketed.

Fast forward - when my father was 75 or so - Jesus Christ I thought we'd be run over. Dad entered the highway doing maybe 40 miles per hour (the speed limit at that time was 55 miles per hour) - and never exceeded 50 miles per hour. He drove in the right lane, hugging the right lane boundary line - too frightened to venture further into traffic (in the USA the right lane is the slow lane).

Cars were zipping past us at 60+ miles an hour - zoom! swoosh! I was scared to death that we'd be hit, LOL.
 
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Every time I renew my driving licence in Spain (every 5 years) I have a medical including eye tests together with a general chat with their doctor.
My health card is then vetted by the doctor which links him to a computer that shows all my medical history and medication I am currently prescribed and using.

They then check my capability to steer a car on an adapted computer (with a steering wheel) that simulates road width, bends etc at various speeds.
My reaction and time evaluation test is looking at a computer screen with the rhs half only showing. A ball of white moves across the screen from right to left at different constant speeds. My task is to press a button when I think it reaches the extreme lhs. No doubt it will have changed next time I take it.

Not perfact but seemingly capable of filtering out those of us for whom age has limited our capabilities.

What do they do in UK?
Does the doctor meet you in the arcade or do you go together?

Can you still pick a lambo over say a Nissan GTR?
 
Does the doctor meet you in the arcade or do you go together?

Can you still pick a lambo over say a Nissan GTR?
There is certainly no age related bias but all part of the way a driving licence is renewed in Spain when you reach 70 plus.

Make of it what you will mate.
 
Every time I renew my driving licence in Spain (every 5 years) I have a medical including eye tests together with a general chat with their doctor.
My health card is then vetted by the doctor which links him to a computer that shows all my medical history and medication I am currently prescribed and using.

They then check my capability to steer a car on an adapted computer (with a steering wheel) that simulates road width, bends etc at various speeds.
My reaction and time evaluation test is looking at a computer screen with the rhs half only showing. A ball of white moves across the screen from right to left at different constant speeds. My task is to press a button when I think it reaches the extreme lhs. No doubt it will have changed next time I take it.

Not perfact but seemingly capable of filtering out those of us for whom age has limited our capabilities.

What do they do in UK?
All that didn't stop some twat driving into the back of me at a motorway peage in Spain
. We were the only cars on the motorway, he could have chosen another booth, but decided to use my hire car as a brake...
 
A computer simulation is better than nothing I suppose, certainly better than in the UK at present..

As far as I'm aware elderly drivers are ok to drive however good or bad their health is.
They are required to get the licence renewed and declare they are fit to drive.
 

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