Electric cars

[Churchlawtonblue]

I'm not interested in one until you can charge at any charger (like a petrol station) and can charge the car with the same range to full as fast as you can fill up a petrol car.

Otherwise it's a backwards step surely?

Obviously a backward step in convenience and anyone suggesting other wise is in denial. We pulled into Wetherby service station on the A1 on Thursday. Parked opposite the electric charging points, there must be 20 or so. All full and people waiting for a space to become free. No thanks.

 

[meltonblue]

Obviously a backward step in convenience and anyone suggesting other wise is in denial. We pulled into Wetherby service station on the A1 on Thursday. Parked opposite the electric charging points, there must be 20 or so. All full and people waiting for a space to become free. No thanks.

Agree on the convenience point, I don’t think anyone would argue that for those that do long journeys or commutes.

The one thing I would say is anyone filling up either petrol or electric from a service station on the A1 has done some shit planning beforehand!

 

[bluenova]

Why do EV owners think everyone has access to a driveway?

Forget charging at home it's not possible.

So now imagine owning an EV in a flat or a terraced house etc. Not much fun is it?

I don't own an EV, and I didn't suggest you had access to a driveway.

More than 75% of households have access to a parking space, and there are options available for terrace houses, which will becomes more common. I was more pointing out that you're considering it a backward step because you're thinking in terms of how you fill up your petrol car. It's not backwards, it's just different, and for the significant majority it could be a lot easier and cheaper than petrol.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I don't own an EV, and I didn't suggest you had access to a driveway.

More than 75% of households have access to a parking space, and there are options available for terrace houses, which will becomes more common. I was more pointing out that you're considering it a backward step because you're thinking in terms of how you fill up your petrol car. It's not backwards, it's just different, and for the significant majority it could be a lot easier and cheaper than petrol.

The infrastructure needs to be there. Look how quickly virgin got cable TV pretty much everywhere (urban at least) as an example. Maybe that's what musk should have done instead of going for the lols by getting liberals to buy his cars for eye watering money which he invested in getting trump back into the whitehouse - paid for by said liberals and green minded folk via their Tesla purchases.

 

[BlueMonkey79]

Oldham man 'gives up' on electric car after council charging 'ordeal'

David Kelsall sells the vehicle after Oldham Council says he could not charge it at home.

www.google.com

This is just one example of why it won't work in many towns, especially old industrial ones like Oldham etc...

Row upon row of terraced houses. The guy in the article has basically been told, if he plugs his car in to charge it, then he is liable for a claim if someone trips over the cable.

Instead of the council trying to support him, they have tuned their back on him.

 

[Grassland Blue]

As a potential EV owner in the next couple of years, I am curious to know your sources on this info.

The Chinese produce a car with a range of just over 1,000 km.

 

[crooky]

I don't own an EV, and I didn't suggest you had access to a driveway.

More than 75% of households have access to a parking space, and there are options available for terrace houses, which will becomes more common. I was more pointing out that you're considering it a backward step because you're thinking in terms of how you fill up your petrol car. It's not backwards, it's just different, and for the significant majority it could be a lot easier and cheaper than petrol.

It is a backward step though unless you own your own house.

And regarding the "75% of households have access to a parking space" what does that actually mean?

I highly doubt that many parking spaces are actually suitable for charging.

 

[bluenova]

It is a backward step though unless you own your own house.

And regarding the "75% of households have access to a parking space" what does that actually mean?

I highly doubt that many parking spaces are actually suitable for charging.

Almost all of the 75% have their own off street parking. A small proportion of that figure have access to shared parking (usually in flats). So generally those figures are for areas that can relatively easily be given charging access.

Your original reply that I saw was also posted to someone who talked about the increase in range. Given the increasing ranges, and the fact that it's a hell of a lot easier to put in charging points, than build new petrol stations, I suspect that even for you, the trigger won't be the ability to charge to 100% in the same time it takes to fill a car.

I don't disagree that charging at home is the ideal, and some won't be able to do that, but I suspect that it'll become more about charging in places where we naturally stop (work, shops, parking bays), than making a special trip just to fill up.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Oldham man 'gives up' on electric car after council charging 'ordeal'

David Kelsall sells the vehicle after Oldham Council says he could not charge it at home.

www.google.com

This is just one example of why it won't work in many towns, especially old industrial ones like Oldham etc...

Row upon row of terraced houses. The guy in the article has basically been told, if he plugs his car in to charge it, then he is liable for a claim if someone trips over the cable.

Instead of the council trying to support him, they have tuned their back on him.

I'm guessing the answer may lie in some sort of socket set in the road like a catseye for example. Short cable with plug from front of car so no trip hazard - payment via phone/card like a lot of parking machines. I'm sure there must be a solution.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Oldham man 'gives up' on electric car after council charging 'ordeal'

David Kelsall sells the vehicle after Oldham Council says he could not charge it at home.

www.google.com

This is just one example of why it won't work in many towns, especially old industrial ones like Oldham etc...

Row upon row of terraced houses. The guy in the article has basically been told, if he plugs his car in to charge it, then he is liable for a claim if someone trips over the cable.

Instead of the council trying to support him, they have tuned their back on him.

Love how he wore his lifeline round his neck to the meeting with journo and photographer just in case the stress of it made him so ill