Electric cars

bluegray said:
Eventually there will be wireless charging built into parking spots. Think they already have them in the states.
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Italy have been trialling a road that charges you car as you drive, think it gives enough charge so your charge doesn't deplete
 
fulabeer said:
It does!
The instant throttle response (to use old terminology!) can be both good and bad. No turbo lag or gear changes to get in the way, means it really is instant.
When you really need acceleration, like at a junction. Or to overtake/change lane/move out of the way. It is a real blessing. You are gone before the other guy knows what is happening.

On the other hand, you really have to adapt your driving. I'm very experienced with fast cars. I've had them all my life. But EV's are completely different.
In a normal fast car, you floor it and there is a slight pause. Even in naturally aspirated cars, you have to wait as the revs rise, or shift down. Not in EV's. You floor it, you are instantly shot forwards. Things on the horizon are soon with you. You can get in a lot of trouble really fast.

Part of the reason is because you don't get the aural cues of a revving engine. A screaming engine reminds you that you are travelling fast, and to watch your speed. A silent EV can means you don't always know your speed.
A few EV's now offer fake exhaust sounds and gear change clunks. I know that sounds terrible to the purists. But It really does help give that "thing" EV's have missing.
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I'm a few months into my 1st EV (Skoda Enyaq 2021). Not only that, but my 1st ever automatic car, my 1st ever car with aircon!, inbuilt satnav/Bluetooth etc. It's incredibly spacious and comfortable, and the drive? OMG. OK it's not a Tesla Plaid, but still, the power I get from this 'family car' is thrilling. Stick it into sport mode and I'd give pretty much any ICE car a run for it's money from 0-60. After that maybe not. But you don't want to drive like that all the time, I'm not a total knob.

I'm lucky to have a driveway with a home charger and as long as I watch my speed on the motorways, can easily get to MCR or Leeds on a single charge. Thereafter it's a bit of a bun fight to find working chargers coupled with decent charging rates - it is v expensive to super-charge. The investment and infrastructure is nowhere near where it needs to be, when it is hopefully the energy costs will lower and that will attract many others to take the leap into EVs. It's a pleasure to drive and after 40yrs of manual gear changing, my knees are fucked so I really won't miss any of that.

Vive la revolution!
 
The Black Shed said:
I'm a few months into my 1st EV (Skoda Enyaq 2021). Not only that, but my 1st ever automatic car, my 1st ever car with aircon!, inbuilt satnav/Bluetooth etc. It's incredibly spacious and comfortable, and the drive? OMG. OK it's not a Tesla Plaid, but still, the power I get from this 'family car' is thrilling. Stick it into sport mode and I'd give pretty much any ICE car a run for it's money from 0-60. After that maybe not. But you don't want to drive like that all the time, I'm not a total knob.

I'm lucky to have a driveway with a home charger and as long as I watch my speed on the motorways, can easily get to MCR or Leeds on a single charge. Thereafter it's a bit of a bun fight to find working chargers coupled with decent charging rates - it is v expensive to super-charge. The investment and infrastructure is nowhere near where it needs to be, when it is hopefully the energy costs will lower and that will attract many others to take the leap into EVs. It's a pleasure to drive and after 40yrs of manual gear changing, my knees are fucked so I really won't miss any of that.

Vive la revolution!
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My 4 year old Tesla goes back in Sept and I'm getting a Skoda Elroq instead. Had the Kodiaq a few years ago and liked that.

It's a business lease so costs me next to nothing in terms of tax per month compared to a few hundred for a diesel. I have a home charger but charge at work for free- not used my home charger since it was installed a year ago (missus does). I've probably had to use public charging 10 times in the 4 years I've had it. Trips to Cornwall etc.

I'd never go back to ICE now but I get that for some people it doesn't suit their needs.
 
I was trying to think of a way to describe the power and torque of an EV, to someone who has never driven one.

Basically, imagine a car where you are always in the right gear, with the right revs and all the power all of the time...
 
Out of interest, how do people think the £25billion in fuel duty revenue that the government gets from ICE cars every year is going to be replaced when more people move to EVs.

Is this going to be further general taxation, road charging ? Or a much higher levy road tax duty on ev vehicles. Bearing in mind that there will also be £7billion gap on road tax currently paid by ICE cars that will also need to be replaced.

I believe costs to drive an EV are going to sky rocket in the very near future, but Milleband and the Government are deliberately avoiding telling people this.
 
The cost of some new electric cars will soon be reduced by up to £3,750 under grants being introduced by the government to encourage drivers to move away from petrol and diesel vehicles.

The discounts will apply to eligible vehicles costing up to £37,000, with the most environmentally friendly vehicles seeing the biggest reductions, the Department for Transport (DfT) said.

www.bbc.co.uk

Electric cars: Drivers offered up to £3,750 discount

Government will subsidise prices cuts to encourage a shift away from petrol and diesel.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
jrb said:
The cost of some new electric cars will soon be reduced by up to £3,750 under grants being introduced by the government to encourage drivers to move away from petrol and diesel vehicles.

The discounts will apply to eligible vehicles costing up to £37,000, with the most environmentally friendly vehicles seeing the biggest reductions, the Department for Transport (DfT) said.

www.bbc.co.uk

Electric cars: Drivers offered up to £3,750 discount

Government will subsidise prices cuts to encourage a shift away from petrol and diesel.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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If you're government are persuading people to ditch ice cars, how will they replace the massive income they get from petrol excise duty?
 
jrb said:
The cost of some new electric cars will soon be reduced by up to £3,750 under grants being introduced by the government to encourage drivers to move away from petrol and diesel vehicles.

The discounts will apply to eligible vehicles costing up to £37,000, with the most environmentally friendly vehicles seeing the biggest reductions, the Department for Transport (DfT) said.

www.bbc.co.uk

Electric cars: Drivers offered up to £3,750 discount

Government will subsidise prices cuts to encourage a shift away from petrol and diesel.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Would it not be better to spend that money allaying some fears people have about EV's like investing in more chargers in rural areas
 
ell said:
Would it not be better to spend that money allaying some fears people have about EV's like investing in more chargers in rural areas
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The boss lady lives near Tenbury and we regularly visit. There are 6 EV chargers in the main car park and I've yet to see one in use.
 
fulabeer said:
I was trying to think of a way to describe the power and torque of an EV, to someone who has never driven one.

Basically, imagine a car where you are always in the right gear, with the right revs and all the power all of the time...
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..And its even better than that.
I liken it to being fired from a catapult or if you've ever been on the rockin' roller coaster ride in Florida it's like the start of that (but not the second part where you end upside down lol)
I've had 2 EV's for the last 3 years and about to get my 3rd - If you have a drive just get one they are F***ing brill.
 
fulabeer said:
I was trying to think of a way to describe the power and torque of an EV, to someone who has never driven one.

Basically, imagine a car where you are always in the right gear, with the right revs and all the power all of the time...
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Its called a motorbike. They have been doing it for decades.
 
Bill Walker said:
If you're government are persuading people to ditch ice cars, how will they replace the massive income they get from petrol excise duty?
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By keeping the price of public chargers high and continuing to get tax from those who live in flats or houses without drives and therefore can't use EVs reasonably.
 
East Level 2 said:
The boss lady lives near Tenbury and we regularly visit. There are 6 EV chargers in the main car park and I've yet to see one in use.
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I could take you to 3 public car parks within a few miles from me which have had pay and display places taken out and replaced with charge points. A combined 40 to 50 spaces lost. Meantime its an unusual scene to see more than one or two chargers in use. There is one near the Riverside Stadium in Middlesbrough town centre which has over dozen chargers which is only ever full on matchdays. I pick my daughter up after work there and if you walk behind the rows of cars they almost all have out of town dealer stickers on them so you can guess who the Boro are playing. If its Potteries dealers it Stoke City etc etc.
 
I’ve had an ID Buzz for 5 months and don’t see myself going back to a petrol/diesel. So much easier to drive. Definitely able to concentrate more on the road without having to change gear. Not overly impressed with the air con system or the IT system but I’m learning the intricacies of it. Charging at home is cheap as chips through the night and is much more convenient.
 
fulabeer said:
I was trying to think of a way to describe the power and torque of an EV, to someone who has never driven one.

Basically, imagine a car where you are always in the right gear, with the right revs and all the power all of the time...
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Alton towers
 
Pontypool Blue said:
..And its even better than that.
I liken it to being fired from a catapult or if you've ever been on the rockin' roller coaster ride in Florida it's like the start of that (but not the second part where you end upside down lol)
I've had 2 EV's for the last 3 years and about to get my 3rd - If you have a drive just get one they are F***ing brill.
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There is no denying the power of an ev but they all look shite and sound like a milk float. They do have a place for those who only see a car as a means to get from a to b but for those of us that are actually car enthusiasts they really don't tick the boxes.

I'll stick to my 2 V8's and diesel daily.
 
Picking up our first EV a Mokka electric, (wife wouldn’t have a Tesla) it’s a nice little car and will mainly used school run and round town, sadly our 13 year old VW CC diesel will be going, I love that car but things are starting to go wrong and it’s just time. To allievate it all though I’ve just bought a VW transporter to go away with the dogs!
 
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