RandomJ said:cleavers said:I don't think you have much understanding of modern european footballers, we're not signing Richard Dunne, he'll be as fit as required, I would imagine over the last fortnight since the video, he's been following a specific fitness programme arranged by the club, probably supervised by someone from the club.RandomJ said:He didn't get a game for France and has been on holiday for a few weeks boozing and whatever else so he will be weeks away from match fitness. Every single day this drags on is critical.
He'll be fine, and even if he'd been here two weeks ago, which was unlikely since all the players who got past the group stages of the WC arrived back on Monday, its only 4 weeks since he was with France, training, in case required in a world cup game.
Behave. Have you ever actually seen footballers on a holiday or seen pictures of them on holiday? They go fucking hard on the booze. They are on strict fitness and diet regimes where they have to be careful all year round so obviously on the few weeks they get off a year they are going to let loose and have fun. Mangala is young and rich he will have been enjoying himself. I have no doubt he'd have been running or something during that time but since he didn't play a game for France there is zero chance he will be anywhere near match fitness.
Mattyc55 said:I think people tend to confuse being fit with football sharpness. Iv been doing a lot of work on the treadmill over the last few weeks but my first football training session was last night and I was fucked after about ten minutes of a high pressing session. I realised how different being fit on a treadmill is to actual football fitness. You use your whole body and the running is much more sporadic in short bursts. Obviously top class athletes will keep a level of fitness over the summer (my friend Zeki Fryers the spurs player does a lot of it), but as he said to me, there is nothing quite like being at your optimum for a Premiership game.. It's a total different level of fitness/sharpness on the ball.
Mangala (and probably Vinny/MDM will not have that right now), so I can't see him starting the season unless we get him in for a whole week as of Monday. Even then it might be too soon.
willipp said:Mattyc55 said:I think people tend to confuse being fit with football sharpness. Iv been doing a lot of work on the treadmill over the last few weeks but my first football training session was last night and I was fucked after about ten minutes of a high pressing session. I realised how different being fit on a treadmill is to actual football fitness. You use your whole body and the running is much more sporadic in short bursts. Obviously top class athletes will keep a level of fitness over the summer (my friend Zeki Fryers the spurs player does a lot of it), but as he said to me, there is nothing quite like being at your optimum for a Premiership game.. It's a total different level of fitness/sharpness on the ball.
Mangala (and probably Vinny/MDM will not have that right now), so I can't see him starting the season unless we get him in for a whole week as of Monday. Even then it might be too soon.
Haha, i know just how you feel. I do lots of 10ks, half marathons but havent played football for years. I played a 5 a side comp a few weeks ago and we played 6 15 monute games. I havent been that fucked in years and couldnt walk for about 4 days afterwards. Doing road or treadmill work is completely different to actual football sharpness. All depends what he's been doing during his time off.
Bruun said:willipp said:Mattyc55 said:I think people tend to confuse being fit with football sharpness. Iv been doing a lot of work on the treadmill over the last few weeks but my first football training session was last night and I was fucked after about ten minutes of a high pressing session. I realised how different being fit on a treadmill is to actual football fitness. You use your whole body and the running is much more sporadic in short bursts. Obviously top class athletes will keep a level of fitness over the summer (my friend Zeki Fryers the spurs player does a lot of it), but as he said to me, there is nothing quite like being at your optimum for a Premiership game.. It's a total different level of fitness/sharpness on the ball.
Mangala (and probably Vinny/MDM will not have that right now), so I can't see him starting the season unless we get him in for a whole week as of Monday. Even then it might be too soon.
Haha, i know just how you feel. I do lots of 10ks, half marathons but havent played football for years. I played a 5 a side comp a few weeks ago and we played 6 15 monute games. I havent been that fucked in years and couldnt walk for about 4 days afterwards. Doing road or treadmill work is completely different to actual football sharpness. All depends what he's been doing during his time off.
Pussy! ;) If your body is used to playing football, then it's ready to play football. It's like riding a bike.
willipp said:Bruun said:willipp said:Haha, i know just how you feel. I do lots of 10ks, half marathons but havent played football for years. I played a 5 a side comp a few weeks ago and we played 6 15 monute games. I havent been that fucked in years and couldnt walk for about 4 days afterwards. Doing road or treadmill work is completely different to actual football sharpness. All depends what he's been doing during his time off.
Pussy! ;) If your body is used to playing football, then it's ready to play football. It's like riding a bike.
lol, I think its what happens with getting old, nearly bloody killed me. My body clearly isnt used to playing football.
bluesince76 said:You do all realise that we'll be playing a team who also haven't played competitively since May? It sounds like only our players have been on the beers and pies whilst everyone else has been playing.