Elon Musk buys and ruins Twitter

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I’m firmly in his camp on twitter. He’s right about algorithms absolutely bringing out the worst in humanity. Explains muppets like Delaney and Castles getting any traction for example.

He’ll do fuck all to change Twitter, bar banning criticism of himself.

People follow Delaney and Castles as they post anti City stuff.

There are more non City supporters than City supporters.

City are successful, so everybody hates us.

Therefore it’s in their interests to post as much anti-City stuff as possible.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

When Twitter ban you for violating their terms and conditions, it's a threat to free speech.

When SpaceX fires you for condemning the behaviour of it's founder, it's a consequence of free speech.

Let's face it, the so called freedom of speech debate is just one of many on a conveyer belt of red herrings.

Not really. Go badmouth your job online and see what happens.

SpaceX takes govt contracts and has massive national security risks. Those taking the jobs should know better. And if the way it’s run isn’t to their liking, they can apply to nasa or one of the many other aerospace companies.

I’m just finished a book on Bezos and a real takeaway was how freeing spacex felt to blue origin employees who moved from one to the other.

I’d say musk(and Bezos) are either great or horrible to work for and it will entirely be a split down the middle.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

He’ll do fuck all to change Twitter, bar banning criticism of himself.

People follow Delaney and Castles as they post anti City stuff.

There are more non City supporters than City supporters.

City are successful, so everybody hates us.

Therefore it’s in their interests to post as much anti-City stuff as possible.

You either don’t understand the point or naively think algorithms don’t push the views to others. Twitter reach was organic until about 2016 and then algorithms were introduced and absolutely wreaked havoc. You can post something vanilla and twitter won’t move it. Say something extreme and once it gets any movement twitter will push it right out front for all to see. That’s a real problem and is why extremists are getting so much traction. Twitter is literally sourcing like minded opinions which leads to clusters of hate groups all across the spectrum.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You either don’t understand the point or naively think algorithms don’t push the views to others. Twitter reach was organic until about 2016 and then algorithms were introduced and absolutely wreaked havoc. You can post something vanilla and twitter won’t move it. Say something extreme and once it gets any movement twitter will push it right out front for all to see. That’s a real problem and is why extremists are getting so much traction. Twitter is literally sourcing like minded opinions which leads to clusters of hate groups all across the spectrum.

So we need someone weird and extreme like Musk to sort it out?

 

[jazzy]

I would Imagine he is very challenging to work for directly, but say you were an engineer on one of his space projects it's probably a great place .

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Musk has a free mind when it comes to allowing science to move forwards and he needs applauding for that

I'm yet to be convinced of that, to be honest.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

So we need someone weird and extreme like Musk to sort it out?

Well that’s where I may agree with you.

We shouldn’t.

And having one single person do it is extremely worrying.

But it needs to be done and if he buys it and hands it off to a trust it would be a huge day for free speech and hopefully set a precedent for companies like meta to also follow suit or face an exodus.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

So we need someone weird and extreme like Musk to sort it out?

I misread that at first. Thought you said

"Do we need someone with a weird and extreme like of Musk to sort it out?"

He is already here isn't he :)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well that’s where I may agree with you.

We shouldn’t.

And having one single person do it is extremely worrying.

But it needs to be done and if he buys it and hands it off to a trust it would be a huge day for free speech and hopefully set a precedent for companies like meta to also follow suit or face an exodus.

Why would he do that if it caused a mass exodus? It’d literally be pouring money down the drain, whilst somewhere else, Twitter 2 is born.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

Why would he do that if it caused a mass exodus? It’d literally be pouring money down the drain, whilst somewhere else, Twitter 2 is born.

Removing algorithms and improving the ability to speak freely without fear of shadow bans won’t cause a mass exodus, rather the opposite.

A mass exodus has already happened. Anyone with conservative views or not falling in line with twitter staffs version of trans rights or black lives matter have mostly left to other platforms. We’re not just talking about the cunts either, literally anyone who doesn’t agree with say trans competing in sports will see bans or reach of posts removed. That’s censorship.

So twitter right now is full of one side of most arguments and anyone who disagrees has ran to gab, truth or some other version.

Having like minded people in separate camps unable to openly discuss and debate is not the way for anyone to find common ground and it’s why it’s important that if musk takes it over he allows all sides to be evenly represented in all respectful discussions.