Elon Musk buys and ruins Twitter

[west didsblue]

Agree.
Which makes any absolute statement - such as Sebastian Blue's claim of kompromat against Musk - questionable. Where's the proof? How do you account for subsequent actions by Musk?

Maybe you can point to where he asserted it as fact. All I can find is speculation and some reasons that suggest there’s a good chance the speculation may be true.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Agree.
Which makes any absolute statement - such as Sebastian Blue's claim of kompromat against Musk - questionable. Where's the proof? How do you account for subsequent actions by Musk?

The more you post, the more you show your ignorance to both what has actually been reported to have occurred (and continues to occur), and how covert warfare works more generally.

You are making assertions that make absolutely no sense in the context of the subject of discussion.

Which I think is your desperation to muddy the waters to cover the fact you have made nonsensical or false assertions and refuse to acknowledge it.

By the way, I never made any claims that what I was saying is unassailable fact. I have said that security analysts have absolutely posited that Musk is a Russian asset, as that has, for a fact, occurred. For everything else, I have provided articles to support my stance, and my personal analysis based on fairly ardent reading of credible, fact-based reporting on Musk and his ties to Putin.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

The more you post, the more you show your ignorance to both what has actually been reported to have occurred (and continues to occur), and how covert warfare works more generally.

You are making assertions that make absolutely no sense in the context of the subject of discussion.

Which I think is your desperation to muddy the waters to cover the fact you have made nonsensical or false assertions and refuse to acknowledge it.

By the way, I never made any claims that what I was saying is unassailable fact. I have said that security analysts have absolutely posited that Musk is a Russian asset, as that has, for a fact, occurred. For everything else, I have provided articles to support my stance, and my personal analysis based on fairly ardent reading of credible, fact-based reporting on Musk and his ties to Putin.

Dude - take a break. You're a fucking conspiracy theorist who needs to be called out. You're spouting unsubstantiated claims as if they were unassailable fact.

I'm open to changing my opinion of your claims if you are able to provide credible substationation.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Dude - take a break. You're a fucking conspiracy theorist who needs to be called out. You're spouting unsubstantiated claims as if they were unassailable fact.

I'm open to changing my opinion of your claims if you are able to provide credible substationation.

You seemingly also don’t know what “unassailable fact” means if you think I have claimed that anywhere.

Or how to spell “substantiation”.

You are embarrassing yourself at this point and I agree with @SWP's back, this is a very strange hill to die on.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

You seemingly also don’t know what “unassailable fact” means if you think I have claimed that anywhere.

Or how to spell “substantiation”.

You are embarrassing yourself at this point and I agree with @SWP's back, his is a very strange hill to die on.

Jesus christ.

WTF is the matter with you?

You're fucking worse than Musk or Trump - completely incapable of engaging in rational discourse - you are absolutely right no matter what.

Meanwhile, where's the fucking proof of kompromat against Musk?

Where's the evidence against - that as a businessman - Musk has a big interest in not pissing of the ruler of Russia who may buy his products - and that this, combined with his current hatred of Dems, - is completely - and convincingly - enough to explain his actions.

You go on and on and on and on with your fucking condescential attitude - never for an instant entertaining the all-to-obvious fact that you are likely wrong.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Jesus christ.

And you are religious nutter, as well.

Great.

Anyway, put me on ignore if you want to die on this hill (or cross on this hill, as it were), before the mods come round to ask us to take it to PMs.

 

[SWP's back]

Maybe you can point to where he asserted it as fact. All I can find is speculation and some reasons that suggest there’s a good chance the speculation may be true.

I was thinking the very same thing. It’s very odd.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I was thinking the very same thing. It’s very odd.

Evidence of child abuse, both of his own children and other minors is the prevailing theory.

But apart from the “why”, many security analysts do believe he is likely a Putin asset.

It is strange that you reject that as impossible, especially given mounting evidence of close connections in violation of his security clearances and sanctions.

And you can at least admit your assertion that there is “little-to-no downsides” for him was false?

Evidence of child abuse stated as fact.

I next posit that while this claim may be true, how is it that Russia holds this as kompromat? Why aren't Democratic governments pursing this as a criminal charge against Musk? Where's the evidence? And further - what news organization has gone on record with these charges - b/c I see none.

From there, some sort of insane conspiracy theory ensues.

Later I point out the importance of Starlink - a Musk-owned enterprise - as playing a vital role for communication in war-torn Ukraine. I ask how - in the face of supposed kompromat - do you explain this? No response from SB.

Into the mix, SB assails my character - I'm supposedly an idiot who does not know what "kompromat means" etc.

Surely, the hallmark of a losing argument, is that you immediately resort to ad hominem when challenged.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Evidence of child abuse stated as fact.

I next posit that while this claim may be true, how is it that Russia holds this as kompromat? Why aren't governments pursing this as a criminal charge against Musk? Where's the evidence?

From there, some sort of insane conspiracy theory ensues.

Please quote where I said the evidence of child abuse was a fact.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Please quote where I said the evidence of child abuse was a fact.

I apologize to you. You in fact state that the child abuse thing was a possibility.

And yet - when challenged on this - you somehow managed to escalate this into an attack on my intelligence alongside a rejection of the obvious, Occam's Razor interpretation. Musk is a **** who hates Dems, who wants to further his business, and of course, as a a consequence, has no problem, attempting to curry favor with the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping.

There may be kompromat into the mix - but it's extremely unlikely as no widely respected news outlet has reported that this is the case (other than the click-bait- "what if" headlines) - and moreover - the US intelligence would be ridiculously stupid not to ferret-out such kompromat - or unbelievably involved in a conspiracy of silence under a Democratic president to burry such evidence.

Yet, you press on.