The yanks i have spoken with have said this. They were intelligent people. Like many Brits It puzzled me why he got back in , but to say it's all down to misinformation and stupid voters is clearly not correct.Have you got any evidence to back up your claim that economically the US did very well under Trump and that's why he got elected again?
The yanks i have spoken with have said this. They were intelligent people. Like many Brits It puzzled me why he got back in , but to say it's all down to misinformation and stupid voters is clearly not correct.
The yanks i have spoken with have said this. They were intelligent people. Like many Brits It puzzled me why he got back in , but to say it's all down to misinformation and stupid voters is clearly not correct.
Incumbent governments around the world have lost most elections in 2024 than ever before, i think everyone gets fed up with bullshit and the day to day shit of working their arses off for what seems at the moment a shit way of life, wherever you live. This leads to the electorate giving them a big fuck off an giving someone else a go.
Having just checked Google, GDP growth was actually slightly higher under Trump than Biden, but Covid has obviously been a big factor in both presidential terms.I think it’s pretty simple, unfortunately. Inflation has caused a lot of problems for incumbent governments all over the globe, seemingly regardless of their ability to control it. When laymen say “the economy” this is really the kind of thing they’re talking about.
Because you look at other markers of economic strength and the comparisons between Trump and Biden are a bit academic. The S&P500 rocketed under both of them. GDP has grown faster under Biden. Unemployment rate has been about the same as it was pre-pandemic under Trump. The relative economic strength of the US today is really no different than it was 5 years ago. The voters all noted that Trump signed a stimulus check for them during Covid, but now Biden is picking up the tab and the price of petrol and bread is noticeably higher. He’s basically been left holding the bag.
So it isn’t that Trump was doing anything brilliant, there was no policy that generated a successful economy. He just didn’t do anything stupid, probably because he wasn’t allowed to by the people advising him at the time. Most of his policies were empty gestures.
I’m not convinced things will be the same this time round because Trump has eradicated all the voices of reason that were around him. The US economy can probably survive most things, but if he starts slapping the tariffs down that he’s talking about just when inflation is starting to get back under control, he’s going to have a bad time.
It seems that way because in an age of the internet regular people are confronted with -- bombarded by is more like it -- stories of people who have it better than they do.Incumbent governments around the world have lost most elections in 2024 than ever before, i think everyone gets fed up with bullshit and the day to day shit of working their arses off for what seems at the moment a shit way of life, wherever you live. This leads to the electorate giving them a big fuck off an giving someone else a go.
Basing your opinion on why people voted one way or the other just on the fact that you don't like the person they voted for is even more stupid, many of the extreme left on this forum have certainly done that.Biden got the blame for inflation in 2022 which was a direct result of the pandemic and was a global phenomenon. It was much worse in the UK due to the incompetence of Johnson and Truss, however Biden didn’t get any credit for it being not as bad as in Britain and most other countries, just got the blame for a few staples like eggs being very expensive. The Republicans were much more effective at getting the message out that the high cost of living was Biden’s fault and things will be much better under them. And the dems failed to get the message out that the US was by far the best performing major economy in the world over the last 4 years.
Basing economic performance on people’s opinion is like basing who is the best football team on fans’ opinions without looking at the league table, and sadly far too many people aren’t objective and treat their political allegiance in the same way as how they decide which sports team to support.
Ye influencers etc who live unrealistic lives and people think they theor lives shoukd be like that otherwise it’s crap, tbh I’m happy I have a roof over my head, warm, eat and a few beers whilst watching City, walking my dogs, not the most dynamic life these days but if I can get the occasional holiday in I’m happy now, it’s bollocks to think you can have it all, big house, car, 5 holidays a year, two nights a week out on the piss, designer clothes all by the age of 25!It seems that way because in an age of the internet regular people are confronted with -- bombarded by is more like it -- stories of people who have it better than they do.
And because the information on the internet is so frequently unedited or unaudited for accurate content, it's easy to go down rabbit holes that confirm what you already suspect.
Which leads people to certain conclusions: their lives suck, and the media ("MSM") is derelict, and the "truth" comes from others.
Not quite sure what point you’re making but you seem to be in agreement that Trump won because of lies and misinformation rather than the actual comparative performance of the economy over the last two presidential terms.Basing your opinion on why people voted one way or the other just on the fact that you don't like the person they voted for is even more stupid, many of the extreme left on this forum have certainly done that.
It's clearly a much more complicated than that, but you wouldn't believe it listening to may on here. The yanks have just been suckered in by lies and misinformation.