Elon Musk

BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Tesla seems totally screwed so long as Elon is associated with the company.

Why?

Well... who on earth buys Teslas in the first place? It sure as hell isn't your radical right wing nutjob who doesn't believe in climate change, even if he can afford to purchase the car. It's by-in-large centrists/liberals - who are buying electric as a personal commitment to combat climate change.

Now that Elon is a radical right-wing nationalist, he's created a big dilemma for prospective Tesla purchasers - buy a great electric car even though the purchase benefits a repulsive MAGA figure who is responsible for dismantling/crippling numerous vital American agencies, or purchase some other electric vehicle.

And it's even worse... current owners of Tesla are horrified with their purchase, because ownership of Teslas is associated with support for Musk and all he stands for. So numerous Tesla owners are now trying to sell their vehicles, even at discount. And this, in turn, helps further cripple new Tesla sales.
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As an aside, 4 months or so I posted in this forum about Musk's alignment with MAGA and the negative impact I thought this might have on Tesla sales. And several posters poo-poo-ed the idea - that self interest and the fact that Tesla makes the best electronic vehicles outweighs any negative association with Musk. Well... I told you so.
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Also doesn’t help Musk that Tesla most certainly doesn’t make the best electric cars any longer and hasn’t for a while.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
I’m doing my big for Tesla car sales. Only on Friday, I got beside one and gestured if they were a Nazi. They chased me for a while until they realised they were using too much battery so skulked off to the 3rd lane, blocking traffic again.

Keeps me amused during the shit commute.
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On the off chance that a MAGA die-hard is driving that Tesla, I'd advise extreme caution when considering whether or not to provoke the driver. Those fuckers mostly own guns and road rage may cause them to open fire.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
On the off chance that a MAGA die-hard is driving that Tesla, I'd advise extreme caution when considering whether or not to provoke the driver. Those fuckers mostly own guns and road rage may cause them to open fire.
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Over here they’re mainly liberal, do-gooders, who wouldn’t know what to do in a confrontation. They’re good people, I just like to remind them of their choice ;-)
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
What's best is of course subjective.
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So even though Edmond’s completely ignores the superior BYD and any other Chinese EV, it also shows how poorly Tesla is ranked across the market as a whole.
 
SWP's back said:
Also doesn’t help Musk that Tesla most certainly doesn’t make the best electric cars any longer and hasn’t for a while.
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I'd go further and say the cyber truck is the worst electric car. Endless horror stories of them failing and being unfixable. Very difficult to insure now as so hard to get them fixed if any damage. And how much in warranty costs are they dealing with.

As a marketing tool and something to excite the fan boys then maybe it has some value. But there is no way Tesla are making a good return from sales on the money spent to bring that junk to market.
 
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Gareth Barry Conlon said:
I'd go further and say the cyber truck is the worst electric car. Endless horror stories of them failing and being unfixable. Very difficult to insure now as so hard to get them fixed if any damage. And how much in warranty costs are they dealing with.

As a marketing tool and something to excite the fan boys then maybe it has some value. But there is no way Tesla are making a good return from sales on the money spent to bring that junk to market.
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Good job the USA government just spent $400 million on them
 
Blue Maverick said:
Good job the USA government just spent $400 million on them
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This appears to be dead. But very much a murky story. The Biden admin were looking for a contract for armoured cars for the civil service. Tesla had responded to the initial process but the project didn't move anywhere.

Seems like some moves were made by the Trump admin to suggest it was progressing and 400m of cybertrucks were on order. Lots of journalists started asking questions and there are suggestions that back dated documents were created to make this look like a Biden deal. Then it all gets shut down and no cybertruck deal is happening now....

Looks to me like they got caught at the very first stages of a scam.
 
Enjoying watching Tesla stock falling. Down over 12% today so far, by far the biggest faller of all the major US companies.
 
I see twitteris down from a large DDOS attack.

Would be funny if it came from Russia seeing as America have stopped looking for cyber attacks coming from there - where most of them do come from
 
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