Empty seats.. worsening trend?

[Eccles Blue]

what i noticed yesterday was empty seats towards the front of the east stand. i used to sit towards the front of 105 - great view but i ended up moving to level 2 because of the amount of times i got absolutely soaked when it rained. if the roof did it's job properly i don't think there would have been so many empty seats there yesterday - i used to sit there and get soaked but i could understand when sometimes people didn't

But, but, but, getting soaked, getting snowed on, getting windswept is all part of the match day experience. I got soaked yesterday, front row CBL1 in case there is anyone on here who doesn't know by now, and I didn't care because I've experienced the days when there was no cover whatsoever for fans. Come on man up, when did a little water hurt you?? ;-)

When I was strapped to a board.....................

So that's how they (including Chippy Boy) are making sure the SC holders who miss 3 or more matches don't miss any more!!! Luckily I had a doctor's note for my absences!! :-)













p.s. before anyone gets up in arms, I was just trying to lighten the atmosphere. It is getting a little heavy and let's face it we are never going to have a definitive answer to the perennial question: Why do we have so many empty seats. I rarely notice the empty seats but I did yesterday unfortunately but hey ho, I was there and I didn't think I would make it. So I am happy. :-)

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

This is where I usually suggest the Bayern approach of requiring season card holders to attend at least half of the home games (or lose the right to a season ticket the following year).

I still think this is the relight approach although it does carry a risk of losing some revenue, particularly at a time when we are expanding the stadium.

That said, I would still give the Bayern approach a go as there can't be more than a couple of hundred season card holders who don't go to at least half the games. Nobody has a right to a season card - especially if they are just turning up for the Derby and maybe one ir two other games.

I pay for my season ticket the club get my money, what has it got to do with you if I go or not

Off the top of my head,

1) It's not just a financial transaction; there's implications for the atmosphere and match-day experience of everyone concerned.

2) Getting a season ticket is imho a privilege not a right. And with the privilege comes - again imho - some responsibilities, one of which is to turn up.

3) You are preventing someone else from going.

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a season ticket without too much financial pain, but I don't get one because I know I wouldn't be able to go to that many games and I just don't think it's right for the reasons above.

I don't think anyone has a problem with a season ticket holder missing a few games a season. It's the people who have their ST every year and you never see their seat taken from one game to the next. That's what I have issue with. There's many ST holders who go to perhaps 5 games a season or less I reckon.

Please tell me you're not serious. I've got a season ticket in the North Stand with my two lads. Manchester is 250 miles away. We can't make midweekers due to school and work, and 5:30pm kick offs are also a gigantic pain in the arse travel wise, and I am obliged to occasionally knock them on the head if the train ticket prices are exorbitant. However, I've had the season ticket for donkey's years, I'm not about to give it up, and nor am I disposed to take lectures from people who have the good fortune to live 5 minutes away from the ground. I'm sure there are many others in similar circumstances. There's a great big recession on, people do what they can to attend, and no-one is under any obligation to turn up

 

[AshtonBlueMooner]

East to say by someone who perhaps doesn't fill one of those empty seats.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I pay for my season ticket the club get my money, what has it got to do with you if I go or not

Off the top of my head,

1) It's not just a financial transaction; there's implications for the atmosphere and match-day experience of everyone concerned.

2) Getting a season ticket is imho a privilege not a right. And with the privilege comes - again imho - some responsibilities, one of which is to turn up.

3) You are preventing someone else from going.

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a season ticket without too much financial pain, but I don't get one because I know I wouldn't be able to go to that many games and I just don't think it's right for the reasons above.

I don't think anyone has a problem with a season ticket holder missing a few games a season. It's the people who have their ST every year and you never see their seat taken from one game to the next. That's what I have issue with. There's many ST holders who go to perhaps 5 games a season or less I reckon.

Please tell me you're not serious. I've got a season ticket in the North Stand with my two lads. Manchester is 250 miles away. We can't make midweekers due to school and work, and 5:30pm kick offs are also a gigantic pain in the arse travel wise, and I am obliged to occasionally knock them on the head if the train ticket prices are exorbitant. However, I've had the season ticket for donkey's years, I'm not about to give it up, and nor am I disposed to take lectures from people who have the good fortune to live 5 minutes away from the ground. I'm sure there are many others in similar circumstances. There's a great big recession on, people do what they can to attend, and no-one is under any obligation to turn up

Other than some people not liking the empty seat banter, I really can't see a major problem. The club have had their revenue so why would they care if people show up or not.

 

[el blue]

I pay for my season ticket the club get my money, what has it got to do with you if I go or not

Off the top of my head,

1) It's not just a financial transaction; there's implications for the atmosphere and match-day experience of everyone concerned.

2) Getting a season ticket is imho a privilege not a right. And with the privilege comes - again imho - some responsibilities, one of which is to turn up.

3) You are preventing someone else from going.

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a season ticket without too much financial pain, but I don't get one because I know I wouldn't be able to go to that many games and I just don't think it's right for the reasons above.

I don't think anyone has a problem with a season ticket holder missing a few games a season. It's the people who have their ST every year and you never see their seat taken from one game to the next. That's what I have issue with. There's many ST holders who go to perhaps 5 games a season or less I reckon.

Please tell me you're not serious. I've got a season ticket in the North Stand with my two lads. Manchester is 250 miles away. We can't make midweekers due to school and work, and 5:30pm kick offs are also a gigantic pain in the arse travel wise, and I am obliged to occasionally knock them on the head if the train ticket prices are exorbitant. However, I've had the season ticket for donkey's years, I'm not about to give it up, and nor am I disposed to take lectures from people who have the good fortune to live 5 minutes away from the ground. I'm sure there are many others in similar circumstances. There's a great big recession on, people do what they can to attend, and no-one is under any obligation to turn up

If your missing most midweek games and 5:30 kick offs then that's quite a few matches your missing and perhaps you should forgo the season ticket and just buy for the games your actually going to. If you've had the ticket for donkeys years then youll have the loyalty points to pick and choose anyway. Why waste yr money and the seat?

 

[Kennyblueboy]

It's the same everywhere. Stop worrying about what other people think of us and enjoy your life.

In answer to your question, you buy your SC, it's yours, you attend whatever games you choose to.

If you buy a new coat, the shop doesn't tell you when to wear it ;.)

well said my friend

 

[jonmcity]

The rags have more to worry about

Manchester United are adding as many as 24,000 fans on to crowd attendances compared with the actual number of people watching games at Old Trafford, according to police data. United have not had a single crowd over 70,000 for a league match, police say

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Off the top of my head,

1) It's not just a financial transaction; there's implications for the atmosphere and match-day experience of everyone concerned.

2) Getting a season ticket is imho a privilege not a right. And with the privilege comes - again imho - some responsibilities, one of which is to turn up.

3) You are preventing someone else from going.

I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a season ticket without too much financial pain, but I don't get one because I know I wouldn't be able to go to that many games and I just don't think it's right for the reasons above.

I don't think anyone has a problem with a season ticket holder missing a few games a season. It's the people who have their ST every year and you never see their seat taken from one game to the next. That's what I have issue with. There's many ST holders who go to perhaps 5 games a season or less I reckon.

Please tell me you're not serious. I've got a season ticket in the North Stand with my two lads. Manchester is 250 miles away. We can't make midweekers due to school and work, and 5:30pm kick offs are also a gigantic pain in the arse travel wise, and I am obliged to occasionally knock them on the head if the train ticket prices are exorbitant. However, I've had the season ticket for donkey's years, I'm not about to give it up, and nor am I disposed to take lectures from people who have the good fortune to live 5 minutes away from the ground. I'm sure there are many others in similar circumstances. There's a great big recession on, people do what they can to attend, and no-one is under any obligation to turn up

If your missing most midweek games and 5:30 kick offs then that's quite a few matches your missing and perhaps you should forgo the season ticket and just buy for the games your actually going to. If you've had the ticket for donkeys years then youll have the loyalty points to pick and choose anyway. Why waste yr money and the seat?

Partly sentiment, partly the difficulty in getting tickets for big games without a season card, partly the knowledge that not having a season card will disincentivise me from attending games, partly because the cost of tickets for individual games is now so exorbitant that the season card is still (just about) a viable option.

 

[el blue]

It's the same everywhere. Stop worrying about what other people think of us and enjoy your life.

In answer to your question, you buy your SC, it's yours, you attend whatever games you choose to.

If you buy a new coat, the shop doesn't tell you when to wear it ;.)

well said my friend

Ridiculous analogy.

 

[Davs 19]

It's the same everywhere. Stop worrying about what other people think of us and enjoy your life.

In answer to your question, you buy your SC, it's yours, you attend whatever games you choose to.

If you buy a new coat, the shop doesn't tell you when to wear it ;.)

well said my friend

Ridiculous analogy.

Your opinion.