England Thread - 2023/24

Southgate has a system that he plays and it's proving to be very successful as his record shows. Pep has a system, Klopp has a system, Arteta has a system etc etc.

What they do is buy players from other club who will be able to play in that system. Pep won't buy, for example, Jamie Vardy as he's a player who works in the counter and he simply wouldn't fit into our team no matter how good his form is. We wouldn't buy a tough-tackling midfielder as it wouldn't suit our style.

What Southgate has done, and few other managers have done, is copy a winning system from another English club manager. Maybe Venables and Hoddle had the nouse to do it. Southgate has copied Pep and the idea that the best form of defence is to keep the ball, the way to win a game is to keep the ball and the way to dictate the play is to keep the ball. As a result, he picks players who are good with the ball. It's no good being a top class defender at Crystal Palace if you can't pass it - you won't get Pep after you and you won't get Southgate calling you up either.

Anyway, this is why he picks Maguire, Phillips and Henderson - he trusts them and he knows that they can play his system. If we decided to pick players on form, the team is constantly changing.

It's all very well saying "we need a Bernardo or Gundogan", but they are exceptional players and at the national level, you can't buy them. So you have to pick a system to suit the players at your disposal. He's done it very, very well so far and brought a lot of harmony to the England set up.
 
The media didn’t take long to get the new Birmingham manager quoted on the back pages but what has Bellingham done wrong to get Rooneys support?
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
Southgate has a system that he plays and it's proving to be very successful as his record shows. Pep has a system, Klopp has a system, Arteta has a system etc etc.

What they do is buy players from other club who will be able to play in that system. Pep won't buy, for example, Jamie Vardy as he's a player who works in the counter and he simply wouldn't fit into our team no matter how good his form is. We wouldn't buy a tough-tackling midfielder as it wouldn't suit our style.

What Southgate has done, and few other managers have done, is copy a winning system from another English club manager. Maybe Venables and Hoddle had the nouse to do it. Southgate has copied Pep and the idea that the best form of defence is to keep the ball, the way to win a game is to keep the ball and the way to dictate the play is to keep the ball. As a result, he picks players who are good with the ball. It's no good being a top class defender at Crystal Palace if you can't pass it - you won't get Pep after you and you won't get Southgate calling you up either.

Anyway, this is why he picks Maguire, Phillips and Henderson - he trusts them and he knows that they can play his system. If we decided to pick players on form, the team is constantly changing.

It's all very well saying "we need a Bernardo or Gundogan", but they are exceptional players and at the national level, you can't buy them. So you have to pick a system to suit the players at your disposal. He's done it very, very well so far and brought a lot of harmony to the England set up.
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That’s all very well but if you don’t create chances you won’t win a trophy.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
Southgate has a system that he plays and it's proving to be very successful as his record shows. Pep has a system, Klopp has a system, Arteta has a system etc etc.

What they do is buy players from other club who will be able to play in that system. Pep won't buy, for example, Jamie Vardy as he's a player who works in the counter and he simply wouldn't fit into our team no matter how good his form is. We wouldn't buy a tough-tackling midfielder as it wouldn't suit our style.

What Southgate has done, and few other managers have done, is copy a winning system from another English club manager. Maybe Venables and Hoddle had the nouse to do it. Southgate has copied Pep and the idea that the best form of defence is to keep the ball, the way to win a game is to keep the ball and the way to dictate the play is to keep the ball. As a result, he picks players who are good with the ball. It's no good being a top class defender at Crystal Palace if you can't pass it - you won't get Pep after you and you won't get Southgate calling you up either.

Anyway, this is why he picks Maguire, Phillips and Henderson - he trusts them and he knows that they can play his system. If we decided to pick players on form, the team is constantly changing.

It's all very well saying "we need a Bernardo or Gundogan", but they are exceptional players and at the national level, you can't buy them. So you have to pick a system to suit the players at your disposal. He's done it very, very well so far and brought a lot of harmony to the England set up.
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I'll always give Southgate lots of credit for lots of things. But one thing he's never been able to do is to get anything like the most out of what should be the best attack in world football perhaps along with France. I mean Kane/Saka/Foden/Bellingham backed up with Toney/Rashford/Grealish/Maddison is absolutely ridiculous. Not even the French can boast such riches. Yet his tactics are so negative and focused on not conceding which completely goes against where the main strengths in the team should lie.
 
Once the Euros is out the way and Southgate is gone, unless the stars align and there's someone special out there to appoint, I would give Lee Carsley a go. He's done great with the under 21's. Won the Euros with them and also plays positive, front foot football. In fact I think he's almost a certainty to get the job unless there's a Guardiola or a Klopp available which probably won't be the case if a new appointment will be made next summer.
 
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