England wasting one of the most talented squads ever assembled on Southgate

[Mr Kobayashi]

No he doesn't! He just doesn't play as badly as he does at club level. Was at fault for Benzema's winner at the WC, let him get in front of him. England will not win anything with him at the back.

Benzema didn't play at the world cup so that's some doing.

 

[lust overlord]

Daft measurement of success when two trophies are available across four years.

I kind of agree with this point,however in the three tournaments he/the team have hit the big stage,we've shit the bed.

The best losing performance was against the French last year.

We've had kind draws,and the time to step up is always met by a defeat.

Limited manager ultimately chooses limited side(despite better options)with limited tactics,no-one should be surprised by the outcome.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I kind of agree with this point,however in the three tournaments he/the team have hit the big stage,we've shit the bed.

The best losing performance was against the French last year.

We've had kind draws,and the time to step up is always met by a defeat.

Limited manager ultimately chooses limited side(despite better options)with limited tactics,no-one should be surprised by the outcome.

Is it his fault that penalty takers for their clubs consistently cock up ?

As he had an infamous miss of his own, it's inconceivable that he hasn't had them practice rigourously and used sports psychologists.

 

[Ithryn Luin]

Benzema didn't play at the world cup so that's some doing.

Yeah, he could have been forgiven if it had been Benzema, instead he let bloody Giroud get in a free header from a long cross.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Yeah, he could have been forgiven if it had been Benzema, instead he let bloody Giroud get in a free header from a long cross.

Yeah only France's highest ever goalscorer. What was he thinking?

 

[lust overlord]

Sure, but would all of those "half decent" managers have been in the final in the first place?

Every England tournament prior to Southgate I can remember garbage performances, riddled with internal politics, centred on massive egos.

Everybody writes off his success in creating a good atmosphere that the players want to be in, instead of the usual horrible meat grinder where they're all stressed that they're gonna be the next national whipping boy. And yet, again, it's produced better results than Capello, Eriksson, Mclaren, who were all "half decent managers".

Ha mclaren !
Whataboutery ain't cutting it though.
Southgate has won fuck all as a manager.
Capello,Sven and even mclaren won stuff as managers.

Credit to Southgate for fostering a unified team.
He certainly did a good job of bonding the side better.
If he'd quit after the Euros he'd be given a bit more leeway.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Is it his fault that penalty takers for their clubs consistently cock up ?

As he had an infamous miss of his own, it's inconceivable that he hasn't had them practice rigourously and used sports psychologists.

They had some Norwegian sports psychologist some tine ago - can't remember the year/manager - but it was felt that the England team had an inbuilt fear of losing, despite having some of the best players in world football. Whatever the outcome of that exercise any effect didn't last long, and Southgate continues to bumble along spewing out his own brand of FA-speak!

 

[sh249]

Rice? Reece James?

Both good players. But I wouldn’t consider them outstanding, certainly not in comparison to others from earlier squads.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

They had some Norwegian sports psychologist some tine ago - can't remember the year/manager - but it was felt that the England team had an inbuilt fear of losing, despite having some of the best players in world football. Whatever the outcome of that exercise any effect didn't last long, and Southgate continues to bumble along spewing out his own brand of FA-speak!

Are they consistently losing to worse teams?

Or did they lose to finalists for two world cups in a row?

 

[lust overlord]

Is it his fault that penalty takers for their clubs consistently cock up ?

As he had an infamous miss of his own, it's inconceivable that he hasn't had them practice rigourously and used sports psychologists.

I'd suggest that his negative management has had an influence in ending up letting penalties decide.

2018 was a pleasant surprise,even if it ended in disappointment.

Euro 2020 could,and in the end,should been better given the advantages we had.
2022 w.c our k.o against the 1st strong side we faced,was waiting to happen throughought our campaign imo.