England's problem

[Don Davido de la Manchesta]

- Extremely poor progression from U8s Junior football upwards
- Extremely poor coaching from U8s football upwards
- Appalling state of local clubs, most of which have no changing rooms, no club house, dodgy pitches, kids getting changed on the street out the back of their Dad's car boot, shit coaches...
- Not enough coaches from U8s football upwards
- Extremely poor development within Academies, even from top Prem clubs with loads of money, to spot local talent and make them good teenage players
- Too much emphasis on winning at Academy level therefore clubs just look around the world for the best young talent who have been trained up to a high standard already and our Academies don't have to do much with them, they are already trained up to a standard that we cannot get to with our own youngsters, in fact we probably hold them back from what they really could become, but of you spot a good few of them you might win the FA Youth Cup and you're seen as having a good Academy
- Extremely poor coaching at Academies, even top Prem clubs with loads of money
- Too much emphasis on being a footballer as the celebrity, money making, cheesy, arrogant people they seem to become instead of instilling the right attitude within them from an early age
- Academies pampering youngsters and wrapping them in cotton wool, making them think they are already a prized asset
- Poor and bitter attitude of English fans, especially those of top Prem clubs who are so bitter they spin negatives towards everything to do with the English football team, there's just a constant negative vibe around England from it all the time
- Too much pressure wearing the Three Lions
- The terrible media in this country

Excellent post. Surprised by how disappointed I feel this morning. It's not as if we haven't known the problems. I also think that there's a general attitude of short-termism in Britain. Who's the latest and who's just won/going to win something...etc... This demands instant successes and things take time. Hence the importing of young lads from abroad.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I'm hearing the same old tired clichés about how the England team don't do this or that but there is no magic wand that it is going to make them a better team.

Everyone seem to think that England has a divine right to qualify for the knockout stages. They haven't disgraced ourselves in either game, but it's a game of fine margins and the crucial phases of each have gone against them. They could easily have drawn both games or even won one of them, and had that happened, there wouldn't be all this navel gazing about what needs to be done to put things right.

Absolutely spot on - Football is a fickle game... were on par with about 20 teams in that world cup, results can go either way soley based on a refs decision.

We have got loads of brilliant kids coming through, Sterling/Lallana/Sturridge/Barkely.. the list goes on...

unfortunately the world cup is basically a knock out competition ... Spain have a amazing array of talent yet there out, Brazil have won on a dodgy ref and failed to score against Mexico - is there a problem with there grass roots, attitude bla bla bla

we could have the best infrastructure, the best coaches for kids, the most funding etc... but when it comes to the World Cup all that makes only half of it.

 

[Gordyola]

The FA is the England team's problem Mismanagement of football in this country going back many decades. It's akin to a gentlemen's club that you only get membership of if you shake hands in the right way. They are only concerned about status, hence the building of Wembley for over £1B instead of investing in football development, infrastructure and coaches. Their answer is to blame the foreigners in the PL, ignoring the fact that we were dreadful when the top division was predominately native. So the answer was the homegrown rule, that will help England team, whilst in reality the opposite happen with clubs buying HG players and sticking on the bench. The solution, the wise heads at the FA came up with for that, is to propose and increase in HG numbers. Absolutely clueless

 

[malg]

Seems to me that they looked good against Italy with lots of positives, but one 'superstar' couldn't play in that system and had a poor game. The answer would be to drop the player who couldn't adapt to the system - but the manager changed the system to suit the one player. That's how I see it anyway.

I thought Rooney played reasonably well last night particularly in the second half. People talk about him being "a number 10" but I would have played Barkley in a three man midfield with Rooney up front on his own and Sturridge on the bench.

I get the fact he had a good game, but changing a system that looked good just so one player can have a good game? Mind you I don't really care, but if I was an England fan I'd be questioning the sanity of it.

 

[bluemoon32]

Argentina have world class players but have won nothing for years. It's a team sport. Greece won the euro's with no world class players.

Of course it's a team sport but it isn't Hodgson's fault he's got a shower of shit to pick from, people are now wising up to the fact that England just don't have the players anymore.

Hart - Best of a bad bunch.
Baines - Not international class.
Jagielka - Poor.
Cahill - From the John Terry school of defending, spends most of his time lunging in or sitting on his arse.
Johnson - Appalling player.
Henderson - Not good enough.
Gerrard - Finished.
Sterling - Might turn into a good player but who know's ?
Wellbeck - Have no idea what he brings to the side.
Rooney - Never became the player he could have been.
Sturridge - Flat track bully.
Lallana - Haven't a clue why he's raved about.
Barkley - This kid could be very special.
Lambert - Oh dear

There's no point even debating with you. You clearly just think all of the players are s### so what is the point.

Whilst you obviously rate them, which is fair enough but wrong imo.
Unfortunately England's record at major tournaments for many many years shows that England just doesn't produce players capable of playing the type of game that can be successful on the international stage.
If you want effort, commitment & stamina then the English player is for you but if you want players comfortable with the ball at their feet and capable of one touch control then English/British players on the whole would be the last you looked at.
Whilst foreign children are taught ball skills, ours are taught to "get rid of it"

 

[blueinsa]

I'm hearing the same old tired clichés about how the England team don't do this or that but there is no magic wand that it is going to make them a better team.

Everyone seem to think that England has a divine right to qualify for the knockout stages. They haven't disgraced ourselves in either game, but it's a game of fine margins and the crucial phases of each have gone against them. They could easily have drawn both games or even won one of them, and had that happened, there wouldn't be all this navel gazing about what needs to be done to put things right.

Absolutely spot on - Football is a fickle game... were on par with about 20 teams in that world cup, results can go either way soley based on a refs decision.

We have got loads of brilliant kids coming through, Sterling/Lallana/Sturridge/Barkely.. the list goes on...

unfortunately the world cup is basically a knock out competition ... Spain have a amazing array of talent yet there out, Brazil have won on a dodgy ref and failed to score against Mexico - is there a problem with there grass roots, attitude bla bla bla

we could have the best infrastructure, the best coaches for kids, the most funding etc... but when it comes to the World Cup all that makes only half of it.

Fat Sam sticks the kids in and you go all the way down to the bottom division over the next 4 years.

That's ok because the kids have promise and its all down to a bit of luck here and there yeah?

Stop talking shit mate. We get it, you have a hard on for team England and its cockneys like you, the FA love as you are the type of punter that fills out Wembley to watch the same shite year in, year out.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I'm hearing the same old tired clichés about how the England team don't do this or that but there is no magic wand that it is going to make them a better team.

Everyone seem to think that England has a divine right to qualify for the knockout stages. They haven't disgraced ourselves in either game, but it's a game of fine margins and the crucial phases of each have gone against them. They could easily have drawn both games or even won one of them, and had that happened, there wouldn't be all this navel gazing about what needs to be done to put things right.

Absolutely spot on - Football is a fickle game... were on par with about 20 teams in that world cup, results can go either way soley based on a refs decision.

We have got loads of brilliant kids coming through, Sterling/Lallana/Sturridge/Barkely.. the list goes on...

unfortunately the world cup is basically a knock out competition ... Spain have a amazing array of talent yet there out, Brazil have won on a dodgy ref and failed to score against Mexico - is there a problem with there grass roots, attitude bla bla bla

we could have the best infrastructure, the best coaches for kids, the most funding etc... but when it comes to the World Cup all that makes only half of it.

Fat Sam sticks the kids in and you go all the way down to the bottom division over the next 4 years.

That's ok because the kids have promise and its all down to a bit of luck here and there yeah?

Stop talking shit mate. We get it, you have a hard on for team England and its cockneys like you, the FA love as you are the type of punter that fills out Wembley to watch the same shite year in, year out.

whats Man Citys problem in the champions league then ???

mentality not there when you play european teams... coaching not good enough ?

Or would you say your on par with about 15 other teams and any one of them could win it hence no team has won the champions league twice in a row...

 

[ell]

Narrow defeats to two teams superior to us, win against Costa Rica and its not a bad tournament surely?

 

[blueinsa]

Absolutely spot on - Football is a fickle game... were on par with about 20 teams in that world cup, results can go either way soley based on a refs decision.

We have got loads of brilliant kids coming through, Sterling/Lallana/Sturridge/Barkely.. the list goes on...

unfortunately the world cup is basically a knock out competition ... Spain have a amazing array of talent yet there out, Brazil have won on a dodgy ref and failed to score against Mexico - is there a problem with there grass roots, attitude bla bla bla

we could have the best infrastructure, the best coaches for kids, the most funding etc... but when it comes to the World Cup all that makes only half of it.

Fat Sam sticks the kids in and you go all the way down to the bottom division over the next 4 years.

That's ok because the kids have promise and its all down to a bit of luck here and there yeah?

Stop talking shit mate. We get it, you have a hard on for team England and its cockneys like you, the FA love as you are the type of punter that fills out Wembley to watch the same shite year in, year out.

whats Man Citys problem in the champions league then ???

mentality not there when you play european teams... coaching not good enough ?

Or would you say your on par with about 15 other teams and any one of them could win it hence no team has won the champions league twice in a row...

Biggest disappointment from last night was Rooney bagging a goal because it will allow the FA and fans like yourself the chance to tell all and sundry how "world class" he is and that we have to build a team around him for 2018.

Don't worry about City btw, we are doing just fine mate when it comes to the business end of football competitions :-)

 

[BlueHammer85]

Narrow defeats to two teams superior to us, win against Costa Rica and its not a bad tournament surely?

we could get to the Quaters, Semi Finals lose on penalty's like previous tournaments and we'd still have the same old cliches that were not good enough, never gonna win it etc...

until we actually win the world cup which is a very very very big ask no matter what your grass roots are, your coaching, funding ..were never going to get any credit. were a nation of moaners.