English Histree

I wonder what England would have been like if the Normans didn't beat us? The lucky bastards that they are.
I think it would depend on what language we would eventually end up speaking. If the vikings would have won would we now be part of Scandinavia??

.After 1066 for 100s of years only the local folk spoke old English everyone else like high nobility spoke French. I think it was king
Henry IV who was the 1st king to have English as his 1st language and he was in the 1400s, every king before, since William the conquer spoke French.
 
You may jest, but study of history seems to be dominated by the twentieth century now judging by what my kids bring home. Tbf it seems to go vikings, Romans ww2. I think some of this may be a well meaning attempt to sidestep awkward or boring stuff, but if we were educated properly in our roots as the op described as well as our empire, slavery, etc then we may gain a more healthy form of patriotism as a nation. Even the unfashionable practice of learning kings and Queens plus key dates by rote gives us a sense of time and context.

Nail - head. Kids now are taught within narrow parameters solely to meet curriculum requirements and pass an exam. I am an old fucker - we had free periods where we were allowed in the library for half an hour and subjects that piqued your interest could be studied in books. If you had an interest in say the Crimean war and there were relevant texts there you got them down and read them.

Kids have it all at their fingertips on line I hear you say. Yes they do but unsupervised they can follow links and end up gaming or listening to music in minutes. When you get a book out about the Crimean War or WW1 fighter planes or Peterloo there are no pages that take you to Betfair or drill music and thats the problem - they don't focus the mind enough,
 
I'm on about micheal wood,wythenshawe born !
btw
i work with a guy 65, afro carib,moss side born and bred who is a rag,knows all the local afro carib blues,francis's etc

Michael Wood - decent TV historian but Big Mal ffs - could Michael Wood organise a decent defence of a one nil lead in a European tie?

( having said that Big Mal couldn't either - maybe he missed a calling and was an expert on the Romano British lol )
 
I wonder what England would have been like if the Normans didn't beat us? The lucky bastards that they are.
Probably like Liverpool..very inbred,lots of people with six fingers, and a very strange accent. Lots of fires though.
 

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