Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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Ban-jani said:
He is. The girl in question has accused him of having sex with her three times and someone else has said he was at an orgy on Epstein’s island, where underage girls were.
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He may be a witness to the actions of Epstein, but has any person made an allegation of a crime against Prince Andrew? If they have I must have missed it, sorry.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
He may be a witness to the actions of Epstein, but has any person made an allegation of a crime against Prince Andrew? If they have I must have missed it, sorry.
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Yes, I’ve said now several times.

Virginia Roberts has accused him of having sex with her 3 times when she was being trafficked to do so and whilst she was a minor in the US, where she says they had it.
 
Makes you wonder if there is something in the small print of the grand order of the royal victoria cross the queen shouted-up lively for andy......
 
Ban-jani said:
He’s accused at this point of time but the evidence, including that interview, seems pretty damning.

He’s accused of having sex with a trafficked girl of 17. OK not illegal in terms of age in Britain but that is illegal in the US and trafficking for that purpose is obviously illegal everywhere.

He did have sex with her in the US too, apparently, and he’s also accused of being at an orgy with loads of underage girls, as young as 14, although the evidence of that is less comprehensive but still the accusation is there.

From what I can see he’s accused of a minimum 3 things that are illegal.
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This could be the first time a major regime has been overthrown through and partly because of the internet. Might be overplaying it, but this feels pretty huge and very toxic for the brand. Who knows where this could end up. If it starts to gather more momentum, they throw him to the wolves (looks bad) or they stand by him (looks worse).
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
This could be the first time a major regime has been overthrown through and partly because of the internet. Might be overplaying it, but this feels pretty huge and very toxic for the brand. Who knows where this could end up. If it starts to gather more momentum, they throw him to the wolves (looks bad) or they stand by him (looks worse).
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The Arab Spring says hi.
 
The old saying That you should be nice to people on the way up. Because they’re the same ones you meet on the way down. Old Andy never thought it would apply to him.
No one I know(RN) who’s come into contact with him has a good word to say about him.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
This could be the first time a major regime has been overthrown through and partly because of the internet. Might be overplaying it, but this feels pretty huge and very toxic for the brand. Who knows where this could end up. If it starts to gather more momentum, they throw him to the wolves (looks bad) or they stand by him (looks worse).
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They need to the Queen to live a few more years and they’ll be fine.

The public support her too much to overthrow her and this will be old boring news in 3 years time.
 
Ban-jani said:
They need to the Queen to live a few more years and they’ll be fine.

The public support her too much to overthrow her and this will be old boring news in 3 years time.
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I agree about the public's regard for the Queen, but she’s a 93 years old woman whose ability to command a situation like this is surely diminished. I don’t think they’re definitely finished as an institution, but this is extremely toxic and plays to many of the genuine concerns and criticisms of those who oppose having a monarchy. This whole situation is proving difficult to contain following what has to be said is a self-inflicted wound. They’ve made a bad situation far, far worse by way of this interview and given it a momentum it wouldn’t otherwise have. He’d have been better off staying silent and sloping off into the background.

Woking Pizza Express ffs! Who signed that one off!
 
bluevillain said:
The old saying That you should be nice to people on the way up. Because they’re the same ones you meet on the way down. Old Andy never thought it would apply to him.
No one I know(RN) who’s come into contact with him has a good word to say about him.
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Yep. That's why the newspapers are merrily sticking the boot in as well. He's always been a twat and this is their chance for payback. I can't see them letting up on him after that horror show on Saturday night.
 
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