Erling Haaland

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bluealf said:
Excellent, I am not 50yo yet so I haven't, but 50 years ago players were hardly getting paid more than a normal working man, so I may cast a little doubt on your post timeline tbh.

My last post on the subject, no footballer is worth 1m a week in wages, even if that player was Messi, no matter what shite analogy about sauce people want to use that is my opinion and it won't change, in all honesty, there is no player worth paying a fraction of that fee but it is a pointless conversation now.

Enjoy your evening chaps, I'm off to invent a brand new ketchup.
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Why do you think that since the takeover we had money that if Messi ever became available we could sign him? If we had paid him £52m a year, he would attract extra sponsorship income and more than pay for himself
 
bluealf said:
You don't think 100k a week is a decent enough reward? Let's say 3m a year after tax a ten year career = 30m after tax, just how will they live out their retirement on that.

As opposed to the 1m a week that Messi got and bankrupted Barcelona, along with all the other high earners.

I see you chose to not bother with the trickle-down effect on lower division clubs though.

Have you seen the price of food at the cinema?

I bet they don't pay the ticket seller 300k a week.
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No, they pay the stars HUGE bucks.
 
Dicko69 said:
Why do you think that since the takeover we had money that if Messi ever became available we could sign him? If we had paid him £52m a year, he would attract extra sponsorship income and more than pay for himself
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Yes, I see him in that City shirt, I have also never seen us actually make a firm offer for this player bar rumours, I mean he has just chosen PSG rather than come back to work for Pep and his other ex-Barca pals, is this telling a story about how much we were prepared to offer him?

If we got the money from outside sources via sponsorship does this then make his 1m a week wage acceptable?

Arghhhhhhhhhhh no more, it is done and dusted.
 
Summerbuzz said:
Deserve is an interesting word. Although I tend to agree.

I'd rather it went to them - but I also think there's a strong case for providing more support for the others who are not as successful, and those without who the whole process would not work. There are things to be tweaked.

The idea however is that in focusing on 'overpaid' stars, the US style owners employ public opinion in their favour. Which is to not pay anyone a penny more than they can get away with. More for them.

I can't help but think of the farce of College Sports, 18-21 year olds turning out in front of hundreds of thousands, generating revenues from national broadcasts. And not a penny goes to them. The colleges and broadcasters and everyone else gets paid big time. But not them.

That is one alternate reality we should be very wary of.
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If you honestly believe all college players get "nothing" I'm afraid you're wrong.
They don't get "paid", they do get nice perks though
 
bluealf said:
Yes, I see him in that City shirt, I have also never seen us actually make a firm offer for this player bar rumours, I mean he has just chosen PSG rather than come back to work for Pep and his other ex-Barca pals, is this telling a story about how much we were prepared to offer him?

If we got the money from outside sources via sponsorship does this then make his 1m a week wage acceptable?

Arghhhhhhhhhhh no more, it is done and dusted.
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Doesn't the fact that we weren't prepared to pay more than we thought he was worth show that some clubs won't put themselves into financial difficulties to get players?
 
Damocles said:
Agents are generally good. They protect working class lads who know nothing about contract law or economic value from the vultures who run football clubs. They make sure their boys get paid the right amount. Without them, we'd still have footballers on £20k a week.
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They're vultures and wouldn't bat an eyelid if it meant more money to them.
 
bluealf said:
You don't think 100k a week is a decent enough reward? Let's say 3m a year after tax a ten year career = 30m after tax, just how will they live out their retirement on that.

As opposed to the 1m a week that Messi got and bankrupted Barcelona, along with all the other high earners.

I see you chose to not bother with the trickle-down effect on lower division clubs though.

Have you seen the price of food at the cinema?

I bet they don't pay the ticket seller 300k a week.
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Why should 100k be enough?

So you believe people should be capped on what they can earn, doesn't seem fair to me.

Messi didn't bankrupt Barca, he kept them afloat for about a decade. As proven with what they have become since he left.

What trickle down effect should there be, clubs earn what they earn from the EFL and so forth. If they go chasing promotions and blow all their money or allow some flash harry character to come in and bankrupt them then that is what it is.
 
citizen_maine said:
Doesn't the fact that we weren't prepared to pay more than we thought he was worth show that some clubs won't put themselves into financial difficulties to get players?
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That is a different debate though but it is very commendable but then that will leave us not signing these star players in the future, surely?

But again that is going further and further away from what was the original point tbh and still, nobody gives a fuck about the lower leagues affording their own '1m a week' players due to the trickle-down effect of top players wages rising and so lower league wages also rise, the only thing is these clubs really can't afford this, so the club either signs utter crap that will play for low wages and the club is very unsuccessful on the pitch leading to fewer fans, less money and bankruptcy anyways.

This game will not be the same if we lose the lower division clubs, they are struggling.
 
decmancity said:
Why should 100k be enough?

So you believe people should be capped on what they can earn, doesn't seem fair to me.

Messi didn't bankrupt Barca, he kept them afloat for about a decade. As proven with what they have become since he left.

What trickle down effect should there be, clubs earn what they earn from the EFL and so forth. If they go chasing promotions and blow all their money or allow some flash harry character to come in and bankrupt them then that is what it is.
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Knock yourself out fella, you're right, players should just be allowed to earn as much as they like, how about 2m a week, maybe even 3, I mean if that is the price then a club will surely have to pay it to get the best player to wear their shirt.

You have completely misunderstood the trickle-down point, I never said there should be one, the point was, in fact, the complete opposite, there is one already and I have explained it at least twice in this thread already.
 
Why’s everyone so arsed about what Erling / Mino etc may not earn?

Whether it’s £200k a week or £600k a week…

  1. It’s more money than most of us will ever see on any kind of regular basis
  2. It’s not our money unless one of you on here has a significant shareholding :)
  3. Our money people have shown themselves to be more than capable. Trust them in that whatever they pay, we’re capable of paying
I couldn’t care less what Haaland and Raiola are paid. I want to see him week in week out in a blue shirt, and I trust our board that we’ll not be facing insolvency on the back of this one deal.

Think some people get way too invested in our numbers.
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Lol - knew that tasty carrot would be too good to ignore.
If Summerbuzz would like to research - there's plenty of "scandals" out there about Collegiates being paid, to the extent they're likely to legalise it shortly
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Needlessly patronising to be honest - I'm well aware of the hypocrisy!

Read the Student Athlete wikipedia page recently? The whole thing is a catalogue of exploitation, and financials are only one aspect of it.

Strikes me as one of those things Americans may find themselves defending that the rest of the world really does not have the stomach for. If you're used to a particular stench, you might not smell it.
 
Summerbuzz said:
Needlessly patronising to be honest - I'm well aware of the hypocrisy!

Read the Student Athlete wikipedia page recently? The whole thing is a catalogue of exploitation, and financials are only one aspect of it.

Strikes me as one of those things Americans may find themselves defending that the rest of the world really does not have the stomach for. If you're used to a particular stench, you might not smell it.
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I'm sorry you felt it patronising, just my response to your original post.
Felt you weren't aware of the situation based on that.
I think I'm right in saying the stadiums are generally free to students, parents and "Allumni"
 
BrazilianBlue (Gus) said:
It all comes from their local media who are nothing but mouthpieces. Whatever the club wants will get published. And they will use the Haaland situation to pretend publicly they’re “contenders” to start looking strong again, with the help of Sport, Mundo Deportivo etc
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Appreciate the clarification - thanks
 
AlanBalls said:
Why’s everyone so arsed about what Erling / Mino etc may not earn?

Whether it’s £200k a week or £600k a week…

  1. It’s more money than most of us will ever see on any kind of regular basis
  2. It’s not our money unless one of you on here has a significant shareholding :)
  3. Our money people have shown themselves to be more than capable. Trust them in that whatever they pay, we’re capable of paying
I couldn’t care less what Haaland and Raiola are paid. I want to see him week in week out in a blue shirt, and I trust our board that we’ll not be facing insolvency on the back of this one deal.

Think some people get way too invested in our numbers.
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Agreed. I’m not arsed what we bid, what we might offer per week and what his agent might earn. If we can afford it, do it. I’m only arsed about seeing city score as many goals as possible.
 
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