Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

We need a song....not blue moon with the naff rushed second chorus that no one can keep up with.....na na na nana na na city seems to get most in, but always thought with oasis connection we would have claimed one of theirs....Hibernians sunshine on leth is spine tingling, but as has been said, getting Senior age people in seats singing is a difficult thing.im from the sixties and seventies era with mostly standing and big noise and great atmosphere. Don’t know the answer, everyone loves watching the amazing football but it’s up to the young uns now to solve the problem and make the noise.
 
“The Etihad inside had areas with safe standing and although the atmosphere was not electric it was very loud when they got going.”

there’s a lot of rubbish on this forum about us, but some nice comments as well. Maybe we aren’t really that bad


One Norwich fan from there:


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The atmosphere was exactly how I expected it to be. Quite good at the start. As the game became a formality and the pace slowed down, so did the atmosphere.

We often compare ourselves to our rivals based on first-hand experience of away games. People who went to Spurs last week think it's like that every week. It's not. We're the best team in the league and have dominated English football for 5 years. We're a cup final (like when Liverpool or Arsenal used to come to our ground back in the day). Spurs atmosphere vs Norwich will be absolute crap.
 
Yesterday was always going to end like that, great at the start but tailing off into a formality.
I expect this Saturday to be much better. The Tarquins absolutely despise us and blame us for all their problems rather than looking for answers closer to home, going back to Adebayor.
Tbf to them they should fill the full away end, loads of Home Counties (ex) students live in Didsbury and Chorlton and they have always brought good numbers to our place anyway

Looking forward to it. Should be good where I am in SS3.

Love the fact they hate us!
 
we as fans need to push the club on this. Surveys, fan groups, regular fans - we need to show the club the benefits of creating a home end. Obviously it’s easier said then done, but somethings got to change
Definitely. We’ve missed and missed and missed opportunity after opportunity.

The opportunities we’ve had include:

When it was the Commonwealth Games stadium, we could have built a big one tier’d stand for vocal fans at the North Stand end that was an open end for the Games.

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From Day 1, we could have plonked the away fans around the bit where they keep old goalposts and the sun lamps for the grass to split the away section up and have them out of sight of the cameras at the stadium, and had the away coach car park where the coaches line up next to the Squash Centre.

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then we could have had the whole of the South Stand for ourselves, especially when the South Stand was extended. What other club shares their vocal stand with away fans? Could you imagine Liverpool deciding to give ⅓ of the Kop over to away fans?

When we built the South Stand Level 3, we could have made that our vocal section like at the San Siro:




But we gave a third of it to away fans and ,worse, for Cup games we have to give them the majority of our end which dwarfs out vocal section

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We introduce rail seating but we could have switched around the Family Stand and the vocal section and had the whole of North Stand Level 1 as our vocal safe standing area

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But we’ve not done a single one of these things. We’ve done everything but…
We’ve developed corporate areas, we’ve stopped people putting flags up to put digital advertising boards in, we’ve expanded the seats down three rows then taken them away again to put digital advertising boards in, we’ve given away a whole stand to families which has only been full a handful of times, we’ve put a stage up outside for bands pre-game, we’ve built a pub inside the ground, we’ve put in new bars outside and in, we’ve changed the food and drinks options half a dozen times, we’ve built a new big third tier with an overhang of a roof that helps project noise and given a third of it to away fans, we’ve put in rail seats with a fifth of them given to away fans… some good and some bad changes.

But we’ve kept the vocal section in the same place trapped between the away fans to one side, a corporate section above and the Colin Bell Stand to the other side.

The vocal section is what a football stadium is all about. That should be the Number 1 priority and everything else should be built around that.

We’ve got another opportunity coming up with the expansion of the North Stand which will happen in the next 5-10 years. Will we get it right for the vocal section? Because it will be one of the last opportunities we have to finally get it right before there’s nothing else that can be done in our stadium.
 
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Building the SS 3rd tier allowed affordable tickets for thousands of City fans.
Although we are well supported we have a hard core of approx 40-45 thousand.If u go back to maine road in the 70s when we were challenging we averaged about this the place was choca against Utd,Dippers,Everton or big cup games.Even under Pearce we averaged just under 40,000 watching that tactical genius.Give it another 10 yrs and we may have attracted the next generation of supporters.
 
Definitely. We’ve missed and missed and missed opportunity after opportunity.

The opportunities we’ve had include:

When it was the Commonwealth Games stadium, we could have built a big one tier’d stand for vocal fans at the North Stand end that was an open end for the Games.

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From Day 1, we could have plonked the away fans around the bit where they keep old goalposts and the sun lamps for the grass to split the away section up and have them out of sight of the cameras at the stadium, and had the away coach car park where the coaches line up next to the Squash Centre.

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then we could have had the whole of the South Stand for ourselves, especially when the South Stand was extended. What other club shares their vocal stand with away fans? Could you imagine Liverpool deciding to give ⅓ of the Kop over to away fans?

When we built the South Stand Level 3, we could have made that our vocal section like at the San Siro:




But we gave a third of it to away fans and ,worse, for Cup games we have to give them the majority of our end which dwarfs out vocal section

View attachment 24486

We introduce rail seating but we could have switched around the Family Stand and the vocal section and had the whole of North Stand Level 1 as our vocal safe standing area

View attachment 24483

But we’ve not done a single one of these things. We’ve done everything but…
We’ve developed corporate areas, we’ve stopped people putting flags up to put digital advertising boards in, we’ve expanded the seats down three rows then taken them away again to put digital advertising boards in, we’ve given away a whole stand to families which has only been full a handful of times, we’ve put a stage up outside for bands pre-game, we’ve built a pub inside the ground, we’ve put in new bars outside and in, we’ve changed the food and drinks options half a dozen times, we’ve built a new big third tier with an overhang of a roof that helps project noise and given a third of it to away fans, we’ve put in rail seats with a fifth of them given to away fans… some good and some bad changes.

But we’ve kept the vocal section in the same place trapped between the away fans to one side, a corporate section above and the Colin Bell Stand to the other side.

The vocal section is what a football stadium is all about. That should be the Number 1 priority and everything else should be built around that.

We’ve got another opportunity coming up with the expansion of the North Stand which will happen in the next 5-10 years. Will we get it right for the vocal section? Because it will be one of the last opportunities we have to finally get it right before there’s nothing else that can be done in our stadium.


great post mate. You’ve summed up all the chances the club have had. They prioritised building corporate sections instead though.

as you say, this is our last chance to do something about it. I think most fans would like to see something done, whether it’s a two tiered singing end (north stand) or a single tier.

We need groups like the 1894 group to push this or the wider fanbase (me and you + everyone) to start pushing the club on it.

if people don’t agree we need to show them and explain why it is, as you’ve done brilliantly above.
 
Definitely. We’ve missed and missed and missed opportunity after opportunity.

The opportunities we’ve had include:

When it was the Commonwealth Games stadium, we could have built a big one tier’d stand for vocal fans at the North Stand end that was an open end for the Games.

View attachment 24476

From Day 1, we could have plonked the away fans around the bit where they keep old goalposts and the sun lamps for the grass to split the away section up and have them out of sight of the cameras at the stadium, and had the away coach car park where the coaches line up next to the Squash Centre.

View attachment 24478

then we could have had the whole of the South Stand for ourselves, especially when the South Stand was extended. What other club shares their vocal stand with away fans? Could you imagine Liverpool deciding to give ⅓ of the Kop over to away fans?

When we built the South Stand Level 3, we could have made that our vocal section like at the San Siro:




But we gave a third of it to away fans and ,worse, for Cup games we have to give them the majority of our end which dwarfs out vocal section

View attachment 24486

We introduce rail seating but we could have switched around the Family Stand and the vocal section and had the whole of North Stand Level 1 as our vocal safe standing area

View attachment 24483

But we’ve not done a single one of these things. We’ve done everything but…
We’ve developed corporate areas, we’ve stopped people putting flags up to put digital advertising boards in, we’ve expanded the seats down three rows then taken them away again to put digital advertising boards in, we’ve given away a whole stand to families which has only been full a handful of times, we’ve put a stage up outside for bands pre-game, we’ve built a pub inside the ground, we’ve put in new bars outside and in, we’ve changed the food and drinks options half a dozen times, we’ve built a new big third tier with an overhang of a roof that helps project noise and given a third of it to away fans, we’ve put in rail seats with a fifth of them given to away fans… some good and some bad changes.

But we’ve kept the vocal section in the same place trapped between the away fans to one side, a corporate section above and the Colin Bell Stand to the other side.

The vocal section is what a football stadium is all about. That should be the Number 1 priority and everything else should be built around that.

We’ve got another opportunity coming up with the expansion of the North Stand which will happen in the next 5-10 years. Will we get it right for the vocal section? Because it will be one of the last opportunities we have to finally get it right before there’s nothing else that can be done in our stadium.

Absolutely fuck all to with the stadium configuration.

This is a people problem. In order to get the insane atmosphere shown in the San Siro we need a change of mindset. A certain amount of boisterous behaviour would need to be tolerated.

I seem to remember that when we were greeting the team bus at Mary D's at the end of last season you posted that you hoped we didn't drop any litter! It's this kind of priggish disapproval from theorists like yourself that's lead to the sanitised atmosphere at English football grounds.
 
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