Never had an issue with the tickets on mobile whilst getting into the groundThese are your views and completely valid as such. I had to move my seat at the start of the season and so I have met new fans. The one thing we all talked about was the mobile ticketing. It was perceived negatively and yet everyone got in and no one had any problems themselves.
IMO the mobile ticketing is far from the disaster that some fans think it is. Perhaps they could do a better job in communicating through the Summer what is going to happen and what this potential service can do. What you can do with Google Pay etc. Instead it comes out of the blue and it feels a bit panicky.
It’s sanitised , I sit east stand lower and lost count of people moaning and tutting when supporters stand up singing or encouraging the team .The biggest issue facing the club is the one that they are ignoring: the atmosphere.
Young fans are as interested in the atmosphere and the singing and the noise in the stadium as they are the football. It is exciting to them. It is the reason they decide to become a fan: they want to be part of that "tribe". If the club make the effort to improve this, and there are readily available solutions, they will increase the matchday attendances and fanbase. Lots of old fans have also stopped attending for this reason.
To create a real big match atmosphere the whole ground need to make noise. Basic human psychology means that if people around them are making noise, they will too. Nobody wants to be the only person in the whole block singing. The layout of the ground and the singing sections are all wrong to achieve this aim. If the singing comes from one "leading" source, one area, more people will join in more because it is louder and it will spread both ways at once around the stadium instead of just one. Currently, noisy away supporters mean that both singing sessions cannot hear each other so do not sing together and often sing two seperate songs at once. the rest of the stadium will NEVER join in when this happens.
The club missed an enormous opportunity to make this change when the South Stand Top tier opened. That should have been called The New Kippax and cheap season tickets offered to fans in the existing singing areas. But there must be other ways to achieve this. The most obvious of course would be to relocate the away fans into the east stand and move the fans in the corner singing area into the south stand (almost a straight swap) so they are next to the current vocal supporters. But there are other potential solutions which can't be hard to find.
Ultimately efforts to improve the atmosphere by creating one single singing area will increase the fanbase by improving the matchday experience for everybody and will of course help the team. It is ridiculous that these relatively simple steps to change the club's culture have never been taken.
I reckon Sky have done something to crowd noise this year. All the TV games sound as though it‘s generic noise, akin to the fake crowd noise from last season.Watched the Spurs v Chelsea match. A big London derby. Both sets of fans hate each other. A new 63,000 capacity stadium. A 17,000 capacity safe standing South Stand behind the goal.
Even before Chelsea scored their 2 goals the atmosphere was dire. Spurs sang their usual 3 or 4 songs every now and again, mainly in the 1st half, and that was it.
The Spurs v Chelsea atmosphere wasn't a patch on any of our 3 home atmospheres. 2 of those matches were against Norwich and Southampton, with both clubs selling less than half of their away allocation.
Some people on here who criticise the atmosphere at the Etihad, especially this season, need a reality check. Whether the atmosphere at the Etihad this season is the best so far in the PL is up for debate. Whether the atmosphere at the Etihad is one of the best so far this season in the PL isn't up for debate. Because it has been and is.
Standing up in front of others is what's tutted at. Nobody ever tuts at anyone for singing or shouting.It’s sanitised , I sit east stand lower and lost count of people moaning and tutting when supporters stand up singing or encouraging the team .
Absolutely bang on. Atmosphere does more for the club than people think. Look how popular Dortmund are to people who don’t care about the Bundesliga, purely down to atmosphere.The biggest issue facing the club is the one that they are ignoring: the atmosphere.
Young fans are as interested in the atmosphere and the singing and the noise in the stadium as they are the football. It is exciting to them. It is the reason they decide to become a fan: they want to be part of that "tribe". If the club make the effort to improve this, and there are readily available solutions, they will increase the matchday attendances and fanbase. Lots of old fans have also stopped attending for this reason.
To create a real big match atmosphere the whole ground need to make noise. Basic human psychology means that if people around them are making noise, they will too. Nobody wants to be the only person in the whole block singing. The layout of the ground and the singing sections are all wrong to achieve this aim. If the singing comes from one "leading" source, one area, more people will join in more because it is louder and it will spread both ways at once around the stadium instead of just one. Currently, noisy away supporters mean that both singing sessions cannot hear each other so do not sing together and often sing two seperate songs at once. the rest of the stadium will NEVER join in when this happens.
The club missed an enormous opportunity to make this change when the South Stand Top tier opened. That should have been called The New Kippax and cheap season tickets offered to fans in the existing singing areas. But there must be other ways to achieve this. The most obvious of course would be to relocate the away fans into the east stand and move the fans in the corner singing area into the south stand (almost a straight swap) so they are next to the current vocal supporters. But there are other potential solutions which can't be hard to find.
Ultimately efforts to improve the atmosphere by creating one single singing area will increase the fanbase by improving the matchday experience for everybody and will of course help the team. It is ridiculous that these relatively simple steps to change the club's culture have never been taken.
Which goes back to all seater stadiumsStanding up in front of others is what's tutted at. Nobody ever tuts at anyone for singing or shouting.
I hate the club but liverpool have it down to a tee. 5 mins before kick off in midweek fans were in the ground flags waving banners up, compare to ours and it’s less than half full. It baffles me how it’s so different, we’re from the same region arguably we have more working class fans so how is it so chalk and cheese.
the main issue for me is that we don’t have a proper home end. We have a few blocks separated by away fans.
one of the few clubs without an actual home end.
My suggestion: when we expand or even before that, we need to add rail seating into the north stand and create a home end there. Move the family stand to another area.
we could even build a large second tier in the north stand and create a home end there. We’ve gotta do something as what we have now is rubbish