Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

Does someones 'right' to watch standing up trump someones 'right' to watch it sitting down? Equally does someones 'right' to watch sitting down trump that of the person who wants to leap around? To me the answer is neither which means we need to find an accommodation with each other which is an increasingly difficult task given how we are encouraged to be self-absorbed these days. If our fanbase is getting younger and more animated its not a bad thing imo. However we need to be considerate of both the older and very young for whom there's no point going if they can't see the good bits of the game. The answer isn't to be discriminatory and tell people they have less right to go to the game and should stay at home.

Going to the match at 90 is to be applauded because the experience can be quite physical and I can understand Dave's frustration. But I do wonder how realistic it is for us as a fanbase to complain about atmosphere, sanitisation, reminisce about the Kippax, the 70s, 80s, 90s... and then discourage young and not so young people from getting excited in 2023. Where I usually sit is near the concourse, but there's still a lot of older and younger people standing at all sorts of points. But the fact the fanbase is getting older at one end, and younger at the other does make me wonder whether a more official senior section for those who would need it and prefer it, with more accommodation for those with limited mobility, is any worse of an idea than a family stand, because the need for a family stand would be negated if there was a flat price for kids anywhere in the ground, and people with really young children often like to sit at pitchside anyway.
 
Going to the match at 90 is to be applauded because the experience can be quite physical and I can understand Dave's frustration. But I do wonder how realistic it is for us as a fanbase to complain about atmosphere, sanitisation, reminisce about the Kippax, the 70s, 80s, 90s... and then discourage young and not so young people from getting excited in 2023. Where I usually sit is near the concourse, but there's still a lot of older and younger people standing at all sorts of points. But the fact the fanbase is getting older at one end, and younger at the other does make me wonder whether a more official senior section for those who would need it and prefer it, with more accommodation for those with limited mobility, is any worse of an idea than a family stand, because the need for a family stand would be negated if there was a flat price for kids anywhere in the ground, and people with really young children often like to sit at pitchside anyway.
Yeah. You should have seen my dad trying to do the Poznan at 87. He just about faked his way through it, though.
 
Going to the match at 90 is to be applauded because the experience can be quite physical and I can understand Dave's frustration. But I do wonder how realistic it is for us as a fanbase to complain about atmosphere, sanitisation, reminisce about the Kippax, the 70s, 80s, 90s... and then discourage young and not so young people from getting excited in 2023. Where I usually sit is near the concourse, but there's still a lot of older and younger people standing at all sorts of points. But the fact the fanbase is getting older at one end, and younger at the other does make me wonder whether a more official senior section for those who would need it and prefer it, with more accommodation for those with limited mobility, is any worse of an idea than a family stand, because the need for a family stand would be negated if there was a flat price for kids anywhere in the ground, and people with really young children often like to sit at pitchside anyway.

Agree with that. Would be interesting to know what level of demand there was for that type of stand / section as opposed to the current family stand. I suspect there'd be people saying they don't see why they should move from their seat of xx years but thats where we all have to compromise if we want to be all things to all people.
 
Agree with that. Would be interesting to know what level of demand there was for that type of stand / section as opposed to the current family stand. I suspect there'd be people saying they don't see why they should move from their seat of xx years but thats where we all have to compromise if we want to be all things to all people.
Yeah you wouldn't want to force Blues out of their seats or for it to feel like segregation, just a designated space which people could use if they felt they needed it. The needs of an ageing population are a reality everywhere - the Etihad's no exception.
 
was a dull atmosphere for most of the 1st half, but I blame the weather etc for that. 2nd half was bouncing.
I wouldn't use the word dull. Tense yes, nervous very. Sometimes it's hard to sing or chant when it's such a good close game.
I make up for it by abusing, at the top of my voice, the ref and the opposition as it helps ease my stress.
 
I wouldn't use the word dull. Tense yes, nervous very. Sometimes it's hard to sing or chant when it's such a good close game.
I make up for it by abusing, at the top of my voice, the ref and the opposition as it helps ease my stress.
Absolutely - I remember a German journalist on some podcast being asked about the amazing atmosphere at Bundesliga games. He said he much preferred the up and down, tension/excitement of English grounds, which was generated by what happened on the pitch, rather than the choreographed chants in Germany - often completely at odds with the rhythm of the game.
 
Going to the match at 90 is to be applauded because the experience can be quite physical and I can understand Dave's frustration. But I do wonder how realistic it is for us as a fanbase to complain about atmosphere, sanitisation, reminisce about the Kippax, the 70s, 80s, 90s... and then discourage young and not so young people from getting excited in 2023. Where I usually sit is near the concourse, but there's still a lot of older and younger people standing at all sorts of points. But the fact the fanbase is getting older at one end, and younger at the other does make me wonder whether a more official senior section for those who would need it and prefer it, with more accommodation for those with limited mobility, is any worse of an idea than a family stand, because the need for a family stand would be negated if there was a flat price for kids anywhere in the ground, and people with really young children often like to sit at pitchside anyway.

Exactly mate, was thinking the same myself. The older fans should be respected and cherished but I'd take exception to somebody grabbing me for standing up. If you've been attending x number of years they'd probably be of the opinion that why should they have to relocate but at least you've given them the option.

It's bad enough not having individuals in their seats for large chunks of the game, people showing little interest when there to those filming everything and not living in the moment. If we start clamping down on those immersed in what's going on and showing emotion then the game is well and truly lost.
 
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