Etihad atmosphere

ello_jo said:
So you're deciding who does and doesn't have the right to take their kids to a game now? The kids that can't currently sit through the full 90 minutes are the same kids who are going to be supporting the club in 20 years time.

Unless they were told they couldn't go to the game by somebody.

Although they could also sit at home and fill blue moon threads for of moaning dross while your at the game you've been allowed to attend.

That's assuring you were given permission? In fact! Who gives permission to the permission giver? There's a thread if I haven't ever seen one.
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Yeah - if your kid isn't capable of sitting through a football match for 90 minutes you shouldn't buy them a season ticket. Is that not just common sense?
 
Chippy_boy said:
A few seconds googling came up with this, in terms of what other clubs / sports do to incentivise fans to stay until the end:

  • When Schalke 04’s football team from the German Bundesliga built their new stadium ‘Arena auf Schalke’ (Veltins Arena), the stadium was built with a draught beer system to facilitate better and faster access to beer for the fans. Today, there is a ‘fan party atmosphere’ at the stadium after games and the beer turnover has been increased significantly. Click here to learn more about the stadium.
  • Post-game wrap-up interview on court/field/ice is a good way, in which fans can connect with their idols after the game. It will keep the fans in the arena for a longer period of time.
  • Contests where fans can win a player autographed item or win access to the locker room.
  • Exit couponing where the club provides fans with offers for post-game entertainment (e.g. restaurants).
  • A TV or radio show hosted at a sponsor’s pub or restaurant or in one of the lounges at the stadium.
  • Post-game parties at Stadium Club/Restaurant.
  • Post-match texts with ticket offers for next game.
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As you have mentioned Schalke 04:
that club has got over 140,000 members, organised in more than 1,000! local fan clubs. It's much more than football, they call it religion.
Everyone of them would be ashamed NOT to be in the ground 1 hour pre match, support the team loud and proud and stay till the end to wave the players good-bye. It's unwritten law without any discussion. And it's love and passion. Even including kids... ;-)

Ah, and the beer comes on top, not as a reason for all that.

If you want to change your atmosphere, you might change yourselves, your habits and behaviour. In abundance.
Takes some time, but the reward will be great and long lasting emotions - and you very certainly don't need post-match prize draws... yawn.

Stop consuming City and start supporting City and the team.
The more join in, the more fun it is.
That easy.
 
Must remember to leave on 65 minutes to beat the 75 minute rush crowd. Last night was a joke........2nd goal goes in crowd leaves. I was back home in Heywood by 10:45pm after a 10 min walk to the car parked past Vermillion Cinnabar. IMO all you early leavers need to take a chill pill and have a brew before leaving. Then again, we always had the early leavers even in 1999 when half the crowd spat their dummy vs Gillingham.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I agree with this too. A lot of people have mentioned the Aguero moment for us. Was that our getting to the summit of Everest moment and no other climb will compare. I don't feel as connected to the club as I did but I have been shifted out of seats due to cost and been pissed off with CL pricing strategies which made me cancel that scheme this year. Like you say they changed it but it was too late for me.

I do stay until the end 95% of the time due to changing my habits but was an early leaver once, usually on around 90-92 mins. I am not sure why, just habit and it was only a change from car to train that made me change this. Maybe a lot are like this. The early leaving is getting worse though for sure.

Interesting what you say about Pep describing other clubs like that and almost saying we are a smaller club. Maybe that's actually the way many liked it and now we have had some success the quest for more and more isn't as strong for some as it is for others or perhaps the quest is such that it's no longer an enjoyable experience and instead has become stressful when we lose or draw when in previous era's it was almost expected.
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Oh I'm sure many still yearn for "ikkle old City", but we have moved on. My point is Pep, although I'm sure he doesn't mean it in the slightest, can come across as slightly demeaning of our past when he downplays it in relation to the European "greats", whereas instead he should capitalise on the fact we need to put many more trophies in the cabinet to reach that level, but go away and really get to grips with what our past means and use that, much in the way Mancini did, to help us reach our next summit.

His failure to get things like booing the UEFA anthem are symptomatic of this. If he understood it in the context of playing the Spanish anthem at the beginning of El Clasico at the Camp Nou, then perhaps he'd realise that much like how Barca want to not only conquer Real but also the establishment they stand for, City fans would actually I believe really get riled up and behind the European "dream" City have if Pep put it in (politer terms of course) the context of sticking it to them.

Pep and the current City co. want us to win CL to be like the "big teams". City fans want to win it so that the status quo have to watch us lift their little baby, spoil their party & really piss them off. That's just one example of how him grasping the mentality and mood of the fans could really bring the unity back.
 
bugsyblue said:
I completely get your points about the early stages of the investment leading us to galvanising and fighting for the cause, 'together' was our motto and that in time coined 'fight till the end'. But I read pages and pages of excuses from fans on here, with very few actually saying, us, the fans as a whole not individuals, have become pretty shit. Rather than looking at what Pep can do, or what the club can do, shouldn't we be looking at what we can do?

You can blame pricing and all that as much as you want but at the end of the day we have 50odd thousand in attendance most games and once the ref blows the whistle there's absolutely zero reason for us not to back the team.
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Oh I agree, I'm just trying to encourage a positive discussion on anything we as a collective can try to bring individuals into the fold.
 
BJL_City said:
I think Mancini tapped into the fan base very well, as can be seen on here, and his charisma along with us chasing down the Rags and toppling Fergie. The chase was something to unify the fans and winning our "firsts" of everything for so many years brought the crowd together, our European journeys and picking up the Poznan, the Neil Young tribute run in the cup, the night against Hamburg, all those things combined created a surge and a strongly unified fan base. Like I said previously it's the Del Boy conundrum from Only Fools, the chase was the fun and engaging part.

Now after several years of Pellegrini and Soriano & co. doing a number of things without real consultation, moving people out of seats, poor pricing strategies at times which have pissed off fans and even though they are later remedied it's too late for some. Leaving early is an easy excuse now, and once it becomes the norm it's difficult to change. The home fortress has long gone, and seeing us lose time after time at home in the past couple of seasons makes it easy for people to leave.

The club can probably come up with all sorts of punitive measures, but fundamentally I think Pep could really do a lot, but he has to show he's actually understanding what the club and fans are which I don't think he does at the moment. I think we admire Pep but there isn't that connection because he hasn't tapped into what makes us tick. He still talks in press conferences about other clubs having more history and we're not on the same level in his eyes, well I think he needs to start releasing carefully considered soundbites to really tap into the fanbase.

Bar going down the route of punishing people for missing too many matches, or leaving early, I think Pep needs to stir something up and the club needs to rally behind it.

Whatever we decide, last night can't be allowed to stay the norm anymore. It has to change and people have to make more effort.
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Nothing to add, but this is a very good post. Bang on.
 
Brendan110_0 said:
Must remember to leave on 65 minutes to beat the 75 minute rush crowd. Last night was a joke........2nd goal goes in crowd leaves. I was back home in Heywood by 10:45pm after a 10 min walk to the car parked past Vermillion Cinnabar. IMO all you early leavers need to take a chill pill and have a brew before leaving. Then again, we always had the early leavers even in 1999 when half the crowd spat their dummy vs Gillingham.
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Spot on mate....it was almost like Watford had scored to make it 2 - 0 and game over..appreciate that there are parents with kids mid week (and thats great to bring the next generation through) but that wasn't always the case last night....I was home in Ramsbottom for 1045, beer in hand watching MOTD leaving at FT and parking 5 mins away from the Vermillion
 
The atmosphere was really flat for most of the game yesterday. In ES3 at times it was that quiet I could hear players shouting to each other. Some good ideas already mentioned about how to try and dissuade so many fans leaving early. I really think it would help if they sorted out the joke that is the met. Perhaps people leave early so they don't have to queue for an hour to get the tram? If we get safe standing it will also hopefully help to further improve the singing and atmosphere.
 
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