Etihad atmosphere

There you go.... you say Cheadle Hulme...when I was 22 there would have been a gang of you going together home and away probably every week from the Kenilworth all lads 18-40......hardly happens at all now. For someone your age it is probably hard to imagine how different things were back in the 70s 80s 90s even, you will get some idea from stories off here and so on. In truth alot of it was shit, and the good old days were only good in parts. As plenty on here will testify it could be a bloody dangerous pass time, the grounds were shit and falling down, and it was almost impossible to go to a match at Maine Road without treading in at least one pile of dog or horse shit going in an out of the ground. When you went away to a ground where the away fans were dumped in an open roofless terrace it always pissed down without fail too.
It was all character building fella ;)

Another reason why atmosphere is dog turd as young lads these days can't party without a minging cut up bag of coke (which costs more than the match ticket)
More interested in selfies and playing FIFA.

Dirt cheap entry, allowing young lads to pay on the day, so no preorganization, just stumble to the stadium, pile in with ya mates.

Tram return included with a ticket like they do in bundesliga.

One big missing thing is ticket sales in town.
Should be able to buy match entry in booths scattered around the city centre... Encouraging impulse buyers.

Dedicated sections of the stadium for late arrivals, randomers, all standing.

Would be immense.
 
In an ideal world, it would go - 1st tier all standing and singing, 2nd tier all those who sing every now and then, 3rd tier people who like to sit back and watch.
 
The all seater stadiums which reduced capacity, which then meant every game you had to have a ticket to attend, was the start of the death of atmospheres in the ground. Trying to get like minded individuals congregated in one area is a logistical nightmare. When I was a kid anyone could jump on a bus/train and go to a game no matter who you supported you could queue up, pay your money at the turnstile and you were in. Now it is all members only, you have to have a card, buy a ticket and so on. Too many obstacles. Add to that all the other options open to youngsters, live games on tv and the football fan will become a thing of the past soon. It will be an event like going to the theatre, a rare treat now and then. ''Hey we haven't gone to a live game in years, how about next week old chap, I will ring Charles we should get corporate!''

All the joy about live games is also being sucked out of it with jobsworth stewards, can't stand, can't sing, can't swear, can't fucking fart, all open to interpretation by every individual wearing the bright coloured jacket at times. It is insane to think now we are competing at the top table in world football, something we all dreamed off years ago, I am thinking of sacking it off, but I am. There again being a Blue was always about more than winning trophies otherwise we would have jumped ship years ago. They are slowly killing football as we know it, leaving behind a product that won't be exciting enough to attract the next generation, leaving just tourist fans and the curious in our place.
 
Why do you think that the people that will be stood up will want to sing? they will largely be the same people that go now and don't sing, & do you really think there are 8,000 at almost every home game that would sing for 90 minutes if only they could stand?
It's not necessarily about standing up. If all of SSL1 was standing, 1894 group could make sure all the more vocal people who help out congregate together at the front of the stand, if that's not working they can try spreading out or moving further back. People will get on the stand earlier to get the best view of the game (which would stop people going off for a pint on the 30 minute mark like they did vs Chelsea).

I have loads of mates in the ground but always have to go for a pint before the game cause they are in the north stand or level 3. If we had unreserved standing we could all group up (in my case I probably have 30+ mates in different sections of the ground that would all be up for singing) and get songs going more frequently.

Because of reserved seating the atmosphere becomes static and stale. With unreserved standing you get more people in, for less (which attracts fans who're more likely to sing) who can surround themselves with like minded people.
 
im not saying they will all want to sing. they wont be the same people, the majority of family stand people will move out allowing people who want to stand to go in there. your honestly telling me having 5,000 more standing fans wont be better than having family stand. we could have two standing/singing areas, even if its not that loud it will be an improvement on now. you dont need 8,000 fans singing all game just a few hundred., like at celtic.

Yeah it's the family stands fault.nail on the head mate. Blame the kids and families.
 
The all seater stadiums which reduced capacity, which then meant every game you had to have a ticket to attend, was the start of the death of atmospheres in the ground. Trying to get like minded individuals congregated in one area is a logistical nightmare. When I was a kid anyone could jump on a bus/train and go to a game no matter who you supported you could queue up, pay your money at the turnstile and you were in. Now it is all members only, you have to have a card, buy a ticket and so on. Too many obstacles. Add to that all the other options open to youngsters, live games on tv and the football fan will become a thing of the past soon. It will be an event like going to the theatre, a rare treat now and then. ''Hey we haven't gone to a live game in years, how about next week old chap, I will ring Charles we should get corporate!''

All the joy about live games is also being sucked out of it with jobsworth stewards, can't stand, can't sing, can't swear, can't fucking fart, all open to interpretation by every individual wearing the bright coloured jacket at times. It is insane to think now we are competing at the top table in world football, something we all dreamed off years ago, I am thinking of sacking it off, but I am. There again being a Blue was always about more than winning trophies otherwise we would have jumped ship years ago. They are slowly killing football as we know it, leaving behind a product that won't be exciting enough to attract the next generation, leaving just tourist fans and the curious in our place.
Well said.

It just isn't as enjoyable anymore as it's so fucking regimented in the stadium.
Its toooo "Clean"

Going to games wasn't just about winning for me.
It was one part of the whole event which encompassed lively atmosphere, socialising with mates and so on.

This is being eroded and one of he reasons why I won't be renewing my season ticket come may.
Not that the club give a fuck anyway as they will find some tourist who will pay double.

If the club bring in safe standing, cheaper entries for the working classes of this area and really make a push for the 18-30 group who are on low incomes with an introduction of gaining entry on the day, standing with mates etc.... Then I'll be first in line to come back.
 
Well said.

It just isn't as enjoyable anymore as it's so fucking regimented in the stadium.
Its toooo "Clean"

Going to games wasn't just about winning for me.
It was one part of the whole event which encompassed lively atmosphere, socialising with mates and so on.

This is being eroded and one of he reasons why I won't be renewing my season ticket come may.
Not that the club give a fuck anyway as they will find some tourist who will pay double.

If the club bring in safe standing, cheaper entries for the working classes of this area and really make a push for the 18-30 group who are on low incomes with an introduction of gaining entry on the day, standing with mates etc.... Then I'll be first in line to come back.

It is frustrating to say the least. The new bunch of high vis jacketed morons they have at the turnstiles now is almost the last straw. Supposedly there for security but appear to do anything but that job, they just wind people up. My tolerance level is lower now since the bang on the head I received due to the club installing a skating rink in the South stand concourse and I fear it is only a matter of time before I left hook one of these knobs and get banned anyway.
 
The way these dicks look at you, talk to you, actually move you around physically and wave their fake magic wand over you is going to end in tears
 
Well said.

It just isn't as enjoyable anymore as it's so fucking regimented in the stadium.
Its toooo "Clean"

Going to games wasn't just about winning for me.
It was one part of the whole event which encompassed lively atmosphere, socialising with mates and so on.

This is being eroded and one of he reasons why I won't be renewing my season ticket come may.
Not that the club give a fuck anyway as they will find some tourist who will pay double.

If the club bring in safe standing, cheaper entries for the working classes of this area and really make a push for the 18-30 group who are on low incomes with an introduction of gaining entry on the day, standing with mates etc.... Then I'll be first in line to come back.

I am not far away myself to be honest. The whole match day experience is too much hassle for the benefits. I enjoy watching fantastic football but slogging across the other side of Manchester and back stood in traffic or waiting for trams is a frustrating experience. A Flat atmosphere doesn't make it worth it.

I live near alty and I may start wandering down there and watching them now and then and watching the lovely pep revolution in the local pub with a pint and a natter with my pals. Sometimes the atmosphere in the pub is better than the ground!!!!!
 
The way these dicks look at you, talk to you, actually move you around physically and wave their fake magic wand over you is going to end in tears

Mate I had a classic with one on Saturday I have mentioned it on here and not once did I see the dick use that wand, he just wound people up, a waste of space and a condescending prick, 35 if he was a day, maybe younger.
 
I am not far away myself to be honest. The whole match day experience is too much hassle for the benefits. I enjoy watching fantastic football but slogging across the other side of Manchester and back stood in traffic or waiting for trams is a frustrating experience. A Flat atmosphere doesn't make it worth it.

I live near alty and I may start wandering down there and watching them now and then and watching the lovely pep revolution in the local pub with a pint and a natter with my pals. Sometimes the atmosphere in the pub is better than the ground!!!!!
If you end up at Alty you could go on Taylor watch for the club ;)
 
There are many reasons why the match day experience pisses us all off, me as much as anybody. But a lot of the atmosphere issue is down to the new style fan with high expectations. I dont mean new fans, i mean fans that have gone for years but now they change their approach to the game. Its doesnt help with press / sky / MOTD negativity that rubs off on us and we are probably un aware of this. But the fans have changed in themselves

The fans just arent singing anymore, if Sergio scores a goal you say 2,000 fists behind the goal pointing forward and a loud "sergio sergio". So for the rest of the games do these same fans disappear in to the footings of the stands and up pops a tourist or elderly person not wanting to sing ? No its the same fans stood there but lost interest by the time a minute has past after the goal. Same if the referee is being a twat, its the loudest song of the day if "clantenberg" referee's. So why dont the same fans sing throughout the game.

Even though away fans at the etihad only have one block, they often sing more or are louder than us. But they have the same alcohol restrictions, the same or if not more stewards and police, same acoustics, you name it they have the same as us.

The atmosphere is better, certainly is in the 115 area, we just need fans to get back supporting the team as they did.

I was at WBA away, great singing andcame home with a sore throat. I went to Burnley away same fans around, but found myself singing alone.
 
I'm in the family stand and enter at A or Z and never have any issues with security. Could it be that the attitude goes both ways?
 
The Singing Section was more audible when it was in the corner of the East Stand in 110+111 as songs did spread down to 109-107. The South Stand is not singing in anywhere near as many numbers as that. Just like moving fans from the North Stand to create the Family Stand, moving the Singing Section has been a stupid decision.

Now the Singing Section is trapped in a small space between the away fans (who are always louder, especially up in SSL3 who always outnoise our SSL1), the overhang and the Colin Bell. You'd think that might give it an away stand feel and bring an away day sort of atmosphere because of it's isolation but it just doesn't.

And the rest of the ground has become a majority of middle class families, old people, tourists, half'n'half scarf twats, selfie stick sad acts, well behaved theme park day out bunch of fans. They are dull as fuck and sit there for 90minutes bringing absolutely nothing to the atmosphere other than tutting and taking pictures or videos of themselves. Some people sit in total silence for 90minutes every week.

But this is all the club's fault. They're the ones who've provided this pitiful Singing Section. How many does our bit of SSL1 hold? 2000? 2500? Let me put that into perspective - and these are just a few of dozens upon dozens of examples I could use - Plymouth Argyle's Mayfield Stand holds 5000 people, Tranmere Rover's Kop holds 5000 people, Stockport County's Cheadle End holds 5000 people...all are those club's vocal stands for home fans only with no away fans there to dilute or outsing the home fans in those stands. (This is not even touching on places like Sheffield United who have a Stand that houses 15000 for vocal home fans!)

Plus it's the club's fault with the new demographic of fans. That's what you get when you turf out thousands of fans from their seats with friends and family to make a Family Stand that's never been full once in it's existence and has made the amosphere terrible at that end. Some fans never returned to the club after being split from mates in that move. And that's what you get when you up SC prices by £400 in the space of six years. You price people out or scare people into worrying about the price of it as the rise in prices has been far too sharp, way above the rate of inflation.

I reckon I know more than twenty City fans (some of which had gone to home games religiously since the 70s, some if which had gone home+away for years, some of which you'd ever expect to give up their SCs) who've given their SCs up because they were kicked out of their seats in the North Stand or because prices rose too high too quickly. Some of them did return when cheaper tickets were offered in the SSL3 but some didn't and had they not been taken for granted in the first place would still have been there.

Premier League football clubs are swimming in money. They're fucking boat loaded. But they don't appreciate their fans and just milk them for all they can. City are just the same as any of them.

Uli Hoeness once said


And they don't just offer a few hundred cheap tickets on the first row of L1 or the back row of L3, they offer 12000 tickets at low prices in Germany.

And the answer will not to give SSL1 over to Safe Standing as it will still be nowhere near big enough.

Plus it's the club's fault for making everything like a kids theme park. Everywhere is over policed, over stewarded, far too strict. Sit down, stop swearing, don't shout, "get your half'n'half scarfs, look a right **** for only a fiver", selfie, selfie smiling, selfie pouting, "here I am filming myself at the Etihad Stadium today with my selfie stick looking like a right twat", robots doing press ups, bar staff who don't know what they're doing, over indulgence in the fucking Moon, a real lack of Manchesterness and Mancunianism coming from the club. I'm sure they'd change our name to FC Moon City if they could. They seem obsessed with the Moon and being a generic football club from no place for fans who aren't Mancunian. "Live in London? Then why not get this special train we're organising and come up to City", "welcome to our visitors from the Philippines" on the big screen.

It's all a load of bollocks that needs fucking off!


And all those fans who left early yesterday - and, in fact, all those people that do every single game - should hang your heads in shame!

Class post that mate
 
The bubble is bursting, it will be like the Italian league was in the 90's in a few years time and who saw that coming back then-it was THE league where all the top names went.There are empty seats at nearly every ground this season-people are getting pissed off with the product, sat like fucking cardboard cut outs not engaging.

The new TV deal has surely reached its limit now and when it has the only way is down for clubs revenue, SKY dictating when games are played-Friday nights for fucks sake, Mid day kick off on a Saturday and Sunday, canned laughter, shit atmosphere, stewards, half an hour queues for a pint at half time.

Its becoming a chore, I used to buzz all week when we had a home game coming up-now its mildy get interested the morning of the game, £40-£50 to watch 90 minutes of football, average fucking players earning millions.

Sky have ruined the game as we once knew it-pandering to the clubs with the biggest armchair followers, BT and the BBC ditto, its all about fucking hashtags and facebook followers,

The game in this country is becoming a fucking farce very quickly.
 
I'm in the family stand and enter at A or Z and never have any issues with security. Could it be that the attitude goes both ways?

Possibly sometimes. Trust me on an individual basis I tended to avoid and have as little to do with them as possible and had few issues myself, but even that didn't stop my altercation on Saturday. So I wouldn't pat yourself on the back just yet.
 
I'm in the family stand and enter at A or Z and never have any issues with security. Could it be that the attitude goes both ways?
Not sure simply standing whilst being searched and then being spoken to like a piece of shit or manhandled around to be searched with a fake metal detector can be classed as having a bad attitude.
 
Football does need to have a look at itself before it's too late. At a time when we are playing some of the best football in our history, why are so many (myself included) thinking of packing in the match day 'experience'?
I was at Wembley Arena on Saturday night watching the Missus's favourite band. £50 in, standing with a pint, friendly stewards. There wasn't even a wall to stop you walking around the concourse to meet with friends!
I had tickets for tonight but have decided the 130 mile each way trip and hotel isn't worth it. Never thought this day would come. I'm hoping it's because it's a dead rubber, but Guinness in a warm pub followed by a game of poker has won out.
I hope the club are monitoring these posts, because there's a lot of people at tipping point and it is small matters that are influencing folks to choose to stay away.
 

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