Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[SilverFox2]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

The major thing that the area should be grateful to ADUG for is the decontamination of the former Clayton Aniline site.
The manufacture of dyestuffs and chemical intermediates uses and makes many deadly chemicals which inevitably found their way into the soil.

I suppose at the end of its life the production line was continuous without too much manual input needed but originally the chemicals were mainly produced as individual batches on roofed staging deliberately left open to allow the prevailing winds to remove airborne waste.

Spillages and out of control chemical reactions were par for the course and early days many of the chemicals were only considered dangerous if they were obviously corrosive (eg acids etc.).

Many of those early chemicals are now known to be dangerous carcinogens. My heart goes out to those early workers who had no idea of the danger they were exposed to.

The ground they left behind is testimony to that danger requiring effectively soil replacement before it could be considered fit for human exposure.

Thanks ADUG for reclaiming that land.

 

[Tbilisi]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Dane Bank Sheikh,
Are you a Windmill Regular or the Dane o? (Reason i ask is im a Dane Banker too-now living elsewhere!)

Ex Dane Banker here too,went to Dane Bank school but left for Sheffield in 1967.

 

[Marvin]

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Before the ground was built, the mine shafts of Bradford colliery were capped with concrete, but the mine itself was shut in 1968 because of the cost of insuring against subsidence. Apparently there was loads of coal, but because the mine was in a built-up area surrounded by factories and housing, and because there was a lot of subsidence the mine became uneconomic to operate.

But what about the subsidence? The shafts maybe capped, but there must be all kinds of tunnels and mine-workings down there. I'd be interested to know if there have been any cases of subsidence in the area and how likely this is. Presumably it's viewed as unlikely as the ground has been built, but if it was a problem in 1968, why isn't it now.

There's also an active geological fault down there as well although I do not know if that was the fault that led to the earthquake swarm a few years ago.

The fault was above some of the Bradford mineworkings.

It is thought that as water levels rise in the mineworkings decades later, this can reactivate a fault. Maybe that was the cause of the Manchester earthquakes?

I remember working on the 18th floor of the CIS Tower one morning and the computers and screens vibrated really strongly. It was quite alarming. The vibration in the building was exaggerated by the height of the building. Miny tremors went on for years

I hope all this has been taken into account.

I remember at the time that there was much speculation as to what caused the earthquakes and some people put it down to the building work for the stadium. I think that was regarded as baseless speculation.

We've now got the new housing in the pipeline too, so it must all be perfectly safe

 

[Manchester1894]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Would love it if the banners that get turfed out were converted digitally and displayed between sponsor ads

 

[SilverFox2]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

Before the ground was built, the mine shafts of Bradford colliery were capped with concrete, but the mine itself was shut in 1968 because of the cost of insuring against subsidence. Apparently there was loads of coal, but because the mine was in a built-up area surrounded by factories and housing, and because there was a lot of subsidence the mine became uneconomic to operate.

But what about the subsidence? The shafts maybe capped, but there must be all kinds of tunnels and mine-workings down there. I'd be interested to know if there have been any cases of subsidence in the area and how likely this is. Presumably it's viewed as unlikely as the ground has been built, but if it was a problem in 1968, why isn't it now.

There's also an active geological fault down there as well although I do not know if that was the fault that led to the earthquake swarm a few years ago.

I remember working on the 18th floor of the CIS Tower one morning and the computers and screens vibrated really strongly. It was quite alarming. The vibration in the building was exaggerated by the height of the building. Miny tremors went on for years

I hope all this has been taken into account.

I remember at the time that there was much speculation as to what caused the earthquakes and some people put it down to the building work for the stadium. I think that was regarded as baseless speculation.

We've now got the new housing in the pipeline too, so it must all be perfectly safe

My understanding is that plenty of construction waste was tipped down the shaft at the Bradford Pit shaft. In fact during its demolition at least one of the Contracters tasked with its break up went bust during the operation.

I believe there is a connecting tunnel between it and the former pit at The Snipe in the Audenshaw / Ashton Under Lyne area currently a Retail Park.
Not sure which way it was of use but probably from Ashton to Bradford to provide coal for the heavy industry in the area.

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

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a recent Hip Hop Party in Huddersfield recently.

Right, you may have everyone else fooled but they've just discovered the joys of swing in that forsaken hole. They wouldn't know their Chuck D from their chuck steak.

 

[mikeskitz]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

The major thing that the area should be grateful to ADUG for is the decontamination of the former Clayton Aniline site.
The manufacture of dyestuffs and chemical intermediates uses and makes many deadly chemicals which inevitably found their way into the soil.

I suppose at the end of its life the production line was continuous without too much manual input needed but originally the chemicals were mainly produced as individual batches on roofed staging deliberately left open to allow the prevailing winds to remove airborne waste.

Spillages and out of control chemical reactions were par for the course and early days many of the chemicals were only considered dangerous if they were obviously corrosive (eg acids etc.).

Many of those early chemicals are now known to be dangerous carcinogens. My heart goes out to those early workers who had no idea of the danger they were exposed to.

The ground they left behind is testimony to that danger requiring effectively soil replacement before it could be considered fit for human exposure.

Thanks ADUG for reclaiming that land.

Just shows how advanced building companies are these days, all the soil and ground works have been washed and recycled back into the CFA with no waste coming off the site

 

[SilverFox2]

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@mikeskitz

I'm afraid the rest of me has become dated as well as my understanding of decontamination techniques.
Thanks for that correction.
Makes sense really given the cost of fuel etc. these days to minimise transport costs.

Incidentally how do they decontaminate the water used to cleanse the 'soil' ?
I know the regulations are quite draconian for any metal finishing processing plant.
Absolutely no leeway for heavy metals and requiring massive investment in treating any potentially contaminated rinse water.

 

[SilverFox2]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site (cont

a recent Hip Hop Party in Huddersfield recently.

Right, you may have everyone else fooled but they've just discovered the joys of swing in that forsaken hole. They wouldn't know their Chuck D from their chuck steak.

I'd love to continue this conversation but I'm afraid some members on this thread seem to think I have a vested interest in derailing it.

As a new member I feel it is better for me to try to stick to the thread subject matter rather than discuss the obvious attraction of the night life in a certain West Yorkshire town.
Perhaps I could return to that subject matter when my posts are under less scrutiny.

 

[danebanksheik]

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Dane Bank Sheikh,
Are you a Windmill Regular or the Dane o? (Reason i ask is im a Dane Banker too-now living elsewhere!)

neither mate, non drinker
Denton West Cricket Club at weekends