Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[SPIDERBOY]

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Just going back to a small discussion from page 45,for those who were involved(or give a fuck)....suissegas has now popped up on the OS.

 

[Centurions]

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Via true Blue @cjhaz69 on Twitter

The form is now clearly defined and its big! Almost MASSIVE

unfortunately the photo doesn't do it justice

That's because you've got this (supposedly) sense of entitlement we all have now. Basically it's JRB's fault, he's spoilt us.

 

[Bluep*ss]

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Via true Blue @cjhaz69 on Twitter

The form is now clearly defined and its big! Almost MASSIVE

Maybe we are secretly, - aiming for a finished stadium - similar to Sydney Olympic Stadium - capacity 114,000.


<a class="postlink" href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sydney+2000+olympic+stadium+capacity&rlz=1C2BLWB_enGB569GB570&biw=1366&bih=635&tbm=isch&imgil=3QtWANjjdkokoM%253A%253BY9nXWmILwOEXaM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Folympics.ballparks.com%25252F2000Sydney%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=3QtWANjjdkokoM%253A%252CY9nXWmILwOEXaM%252C_&usg=__rwf4CRaDPTz_edH9yjXpUrr6wNQ%3D&ved=0CG0Qyjc&ei=h9iSVIbOEZLqaIWigagK#imgdii=_" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sydne ... K#imgdii=_</a>

 

[mancity dan]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Threa

Via true Blue @cjhaz69 on Twitter

The form is now clearly defined and its big! Almost MASSIVE

Maybe we are secretly, - aiming for a finished stadium - similar to Sydney Olympic Stadium - capacity 114,000.


<a class="postlink" href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sydney+2000+olympic+stadium+capacity&rlz=1C2BLWB_enGB569GB570&biw=1366&bih=635&tbm=isch&imgil=3QtWANjjdkokoM%253A%253BY9nXWmILwOEXaM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Folympics.ballparks.com%25252F2000Sydney%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=3QtWANjjdkokoM%253A%252CY9nXWmILwOEXaM%252C_&usg=__rwf4CRaDPTz_edH9yjXpUrr6wNQ%3D&ved=0CG0Qyjc&ei=h9iSVIbOEZLqaIWigagK#imgdii=_" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sydne ... K#imgdii=_</a>

That looks brilliant. Hopefully same capacity for us eventually? ;)

 

[Centurions]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Threa

Via true Blue @cjhaz69 on Twitter

The form is now clearly defined and its big! Almost MASSIVE

Maybe we are secretly, - aiming for a finished stadium - similar to Sydney Olympic Stadium - capacity 114,000.


<a class="postlink" href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sydney+2000+olympic+stadium+capacity&rlz=1C2BLWB_enGB569GB570&biw=1366&bih=635&tbm=isch&imgil=3QtWANjjdkokoM%253A%253BY9nXWmILwOEXaM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Folympics.ballparks.com%25252F2000Sydney%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=3QtWANjjdkokoM%253A%252CY9nXWmILwOEXaM%252C_&usg=__rwf4CRaDPTz_edH9yjXpUrr6wNQ%3D&ved=0CG0Qyjc&ei=h9iSVIbOEZLqaIWigagK#imgdii=_" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sydne ... K#imgdii=_</a>

That looks brilliant. Hopefully same capacity for us eventually? ;)

Probably aiming for circa 80,000 eventually. I've often wondered if we'd not already had Eastlands or at least actually owned it whether they would have built a brand new iconic stadium. Some of the buildings in the middle east are truly awe inspiring.

 

[DiscoSteve]

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Either on this thread or over on mcfcforums there has been discussion (with facts) of why the Sheikh decided to expand our stadium rather than build a new one.

I think 80,000 max with the rebuilt third tiers on the sides

The Sydney stadium was only 114,000 with those huge ends - its now down to about 80,000

 

[somapop]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Threa

Either on this thread or over on mcfcforums there has been discussion (with facts) of why the Sheikh decided to expand our stadium rather than build a new one.

I think 80,000 max with the rebuilt third tiers on the sides

The Sydney stadium was only 114,000 with those huge ends - its now down to about 80,000

Looks better without those ends, but it's not really a looker compared to many.
Decent sporting area by the looks of it though - be interested to look at the reasons why a new stadium wasn't built in the end, but I suspect (eventually) it won't make any difference given the engineering already on show and a 'finishing' clad!

 

[the god Gerry Gow]

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When Maine Road opened in 1923 - it was tagged "Wembley of the North" - Capacity around 80,000.
Maine Stand - 15,00 seats. - Kippax about 30,000. - Platt Lane 15,000 (including the curved section around to Main Stand. -Same for scoreboard end
15,000 - around 75,000 capacity. - BUT 84,569 vs. Stoke FA Cup 1934 went down in history.

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30,000 for the Kippax (more than the Stretford End, Kop, Gallowgate, Clock End, Holt End etc.). That would be plenty for a singing section !

Only Wembley and Odsal had a bigger stand than the Kippax in the country.

Was the East Stand at The Valley (Charlton Athletic) not bigger. Was the biggest ground in the country at one time

 

[Bluep*ss]

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30,000 for the Kippax (more than the Stretford End, Kop, Gallowgate, Clock End, Holt End etc.). That would be plenty for a singing section !

Only Wembley and Odsal had a bigger stand than the Kippax in the country.

Was the East Stand at The Valley (Charlton Athletic) not bigger. Was the biggest ground in the country at one time

You have been reading WikiPedia.
The quote below was copied/pasted from Wiki.

The Valley was the largest football ground in the League, drawing crowds in excess of 70,000.[2] .Their record attendance was 75,031 - FA Cup - 1938 against Villa.-
- they forgot to mention " the biggest" after Maine Road, Manchester, home to Manchester City.

 

[kev20971]

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Only Wembley and Odsal had a bigger stand than the Kippax in the country.

Was the East Stand at The Valley (Charlton Athletic) not bigger. Was the biggest ground in the country at one time

You have been reading WikiPedia.
The quote below was copied/pasted from Wiki.

The Valley was the largest football ground in the League, drawing crowds in excess of 70,000.[2] .Their record attendance was 75,031 - FA Cup - 1938 against Villa.-
- they forgot to mention " the biggest" after Maine Road, Manchester, home to Manchester City.

Could The Valley hold more than 75'031 ? Because looking at record attendances on Wikipedia, Charlton are only 8th on the list !

 

[dawlish dave]

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Was the East Stand at The Valley (Charlton Athletic) not bigger. Was the biggest ground in the country at one time

You have been reading WikiPedia.
The quote below was copied/pasted from Wiki.

The Valley was the largest football ground in the League, drawing crowds in excess of 70,000.[2] .Their record attendance was 75,031 - FA Cup - 1938 against Villa.-
- they forgot to mention " the biggest" after Maine Road, Manchester, home to Manchester City.

Could The Valley hold more than 75'031 ? Because looking at record attendances on Wikipedia, Charlton are only 8th on the list !

The "old" Valley was almost a three sided ground, the grandstand ran from the edge of the penalty to the other penalty area with some 40 mts left open at the sides, the seating being around 2500 to 3000, I only attended the "old Valley. once and the standing terraces were very steep compared to Maine road.
Another large terrace pre all seating was St Andrews, some good shots of the old terraces can be found on the Pathe section of youtube.

 

[willipp]

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Im taking my Dad to his first game in about 5 years tomorrow and cant wait to walk around the ground and campus area to show him the changes. Can we go into the CFA area? Or is there anywhere with good views?

 

[kev20971]

Re: Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Threa

You have been reading WikiPedia.
The quote below was copied/pasted from Wiki.

The Valley was the largest football ground in the League, drawing crowds in excess of 70,000.[2] .Their record attendance was 75,031 - FA Cup - 1938 against Villa.-
- they forgot to mention " the biggest" after Maine Road, Manchester, home to Manchester City.

Could The Valley hold more than 75'031 ? Because looking at record attendances on Wikipedia, Charlton are only 8th on the list !

The "old" Valley was almost a three sided ground, the grandstand ran from the edge of the penalty to the other penalty area with some 40 mts left open at the sides, the seating being around 2500 to 3000, I only attended the "old Valley. once and the standing terraces were very steep compared to Maine road.
Another large terrace pre all seating was St Andrews, some good shots of the old terraces can be found on the Pathe section of youtube.

It's funny when people go on about "history" in football, and the lack of it with some clubs, ie us & Chelsea, Yet Maine Road must of been one of the most historical grounds in the country, with all it's records !

 

[Victoria-bahs]

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remeber my old man telling me once that Bradford Park Avenue could have the most people able to Watch a game due to it being in a valley !

Use to like the B P A colour scarfs

 

[ftg]

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You have been reading WikiPedia.
The quote below was copied/pasted from Wiki.

The Valley was the largest football ground in the League, drawing crowds in excess of 70,000.[2] .Their record attendance was 75,031 - FA Cup - 1938 against Villa.-
- they forgot to mention " the biggest" after Maine Road, Manchester, home to Manchester City.

Could The Valley hold more than 75'031 ? Because looking at record attendances on Wikipedia, Charlton are only 8th on the list !

The "old" Valley was almost a three sided ground, the grandstand ran from the edge of the penalty to the other penalty area with some 40 mts left open at the sides, the seating being around 2500 to 3000, I only attended the "old Valley. once and the standing terraces were very steep compared to Maine road.
Another large terrace pre all seating was St Andrews, some good shots of the old terraces can be found on the Pathe section of youtube.

You're spot on: that 75,000 was pretty much spread over three sides. some nice photo's here of the big side terrace - looks much bigger than the kippax admittedly.

 

[somapop]

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Apologies if these has already been discussed.
I recall earlier chats on Abu Dhabi investment spreading further afield than the Etihad Campus/Wider East Manchester area, and it looks like it's starting to happen:

Man City bosses pour £175m into Owens Park student campus

Abu-Dhabi-based Mubadala Development Company, run by Manchester City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, has put up the cash to redevelop the sprawling Owens Park site in Fallowfield.

Manchester City bosses are set to pump £175m into the transformation of The University of Manchester’s Fallowfield campus.

Abu-Dhabi-based Mubadala Development Company, run by Manchester City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, has put up the cash to redevelop the sprawling Owens Park site....

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/man-city-bosses-pour-175m-8315416

 

[SilverFox2]

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Apologies if these has already been discussed.
I recall earlier chats on Abu Dhabi investment spreading further afield than the Etihad Campus/Wider East Manchester area, and it looks like it's starting to happen:

Man City bosses pour £175m into Owens Park student campus

Abu-Dhabi-based Mubadala Development Company, run by Manchester City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, has put up the cash to redevelop the sprawling Owens Park site in Fallowfield.

Manchester City bosses are set to pump £175m into the transformation of The University of Manchester’s Fallowfield campus.

Abu-Dhabi-based Mubadala Development Company, run by Manchester City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak, has put up the cash to redevelop the sprawling Owens Park site....

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/man-city-bosses-pour-175m-8315416

I think that this has always been the plan.

Why should the North of England wait for crumbs from London when it has its own Academy Developed investors with a proven pedigree offering to fund its projects.

 

[Chippy_boy]

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You have to hand it to our owners, the levels of investment and honestly the shear generousity they are showing with the money they are pouring into Manchester, well, it's quite breathtaking. "Thank-you" doesn't really cover it.

 

[droylsdenblue]

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Could The Valley hold more than 75'031 ? Because looking at record attendances on Wikipedia, Charlton are only 8th on the list !

The "old" Valley was almost a three sided ground, the grandstand ran from the edge of the penalty to the other penalty area with some 40 mts left open at the sides, the seating being around 2500 to 3000, I only attended the "old Valley. once and the standing terraces were very steep compared to Maine road.
Another large terrace pre all seating was St Andrews, some good shots of the old terraces can be found on the Pathe section of youtube.

I once read that the Valley had attracted crowds up to 70000 but it had never been full so they didn't actually know how many it held.

You're spot on: that 75,000 was pretty much spread over three sides. some nice photo's here of the big side terrace - looks much bigger than the kippax admittedly.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

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The "old" Valley was almost a three sided ground, the grandstand ran from the edge of the penalty to the other penalty area with some 40 mts left open at the sides, the seating being around 2500 to 3000, I only attended the "old Valley. once and the standing terraces were very steep compared to Maine road.
Another large terrace pre all seating was St Andrews, some good shots of the old terraces can be found on the Pathe section of youtube.

I once read that the Valley had attracted crowds up to 70000 but it had never been full so they didn't actually know how many it held.

You're spot on: that 75,000 was pretty much spread over three sides. some nice photo's here of the big side terrace - looks much bigger than the kippax admittedly.

I'm sure if Sheikh Mansour had bought Charlton in 2008 fans of clubs like Liverpool would have comically said they were a club "without history".

Their demise is fully merited.