The 40% figure is based on the fact that post Etihad, Dennis Tueart came to a supporters club meeting at Northenden, a discussion took place about the new stadium and how big it was going to be, 50000 or 60000. 50000 was the clubs decision, as they felt we would fill it with our then current fan base and demand for match day tickets and season ticket holders. It would be built to enable simple expansion. Somebody asked how the club measured the demand for tickets and Dennis replied simply that records were kept of where sales and enquiry was made, and 36% at that time were made in the South East, he joked, don't tell the United Fans. I have friends and relatives in Surrey, Reigate, Eastbourne and Bexhill, we often travel down there and more often than not I'll see all ages of people wearing City merchandise. The demographic of fans at home is changing dramatically, and away to a certain extent. Like it or not, we are attracting fans from all over the place, and some of those that once went regularly, are again starting to attend. I was looking at the programme last night for the last game at Maine Road against Southampton. There is a fans roll of honour throughout it, containing thousands of fans names. As many are from outside of Manchester, than in it. The club know better than us where and how our fan base is growing, consider the train they run from London now. I remember us playing Arsenal in the cup a few years ago, we won 1 nil late on. There were 9000 blues at the game, unheard of for a midweek night game in London. Like it or lump it, we are becoming the next club to support for younger fans and those around the country and World. Pep is the new draw for many fans, add to that the probable cup and league success he will bring for several years, add some top quality players, more sponsorship, more income, more seats in the stadium. Don't underestimate what the club and hierarchy are doing to enhance the clubs standing, it's a growing project with no end in sight. Massive as the Red cnuts would say....!
Do I know you? I was on the committee of the Northenden branch and if I remember rightly that was our first official meeting where we received the OSC pennant. I can also confirm what you've said as I quoted it in the next month's newlsletter.
Spot on Sir, more fans the better i say i have no problem with the " tourest " fan brings money to the club, and the new fans welcome, I know where i and my family came from as City fans, and all us long standing and suffering fans should be happy the club is growing this way not moaning about it, i can not wait to see a full 60k plus stadium.
Possibly, I was Mike Quinn's (rest his soul) son in law, and yes it was the inaugural meeting of the Northenden Supporters club.. I see some of the lads occasionally at matches, but I've not been a member there for 12 or 13 years...!
Hi. Yes, I remember Mike well. He was a really nice person and sadly missed. Pete Gregory took over as chairman and then I replaced Pete. I was also in charge of booking the guests and writing the newsletter. The guys still book a bus from Northenden to the match, so if you want to catch up with them they still allow payment and walk ons. I think they still get on at Bar Bibo but I can't be certain as I live in Paraguay now and don't receive e-mails anymore.
Flippin eck ! Have you seen Lord Lucan ?Hi. Yes, I remember Mike well. He was a really nice person and sadly missed. Pete Gregory took over as chairman and then I replaced Pete. I was also in charge of booking the guests and writing the newsletter. The guys still book a bus from Northenden to the match, so if you want to catch up with them they still allow payment and walk ons. I think they still get on at Bar Bibo but I can't be certain as I live in Paraguay now and don't receive e-mails anymore.
Might take them up on that offer if they allow walk ons. Mike would have loved to have seen our recent success
Flippin eck ! Have you seen Lord Lucan ?
What made you choose Paraguay my learned blue friend ?Yeah, he's sat with me now, along with Hitler and Mengele.
Who are these others? Rags and Arsenal have cup tickets included in season ticket prices so these count even if ST holders don't go. They're more likely to go/sell on as they've already paid. These are the only clubs to sell more tickets for home FA Cup games that season than City. Not Liverpool, not Chelsea not Spurs. In the 14/15 season (last time City played at home) we had two home games and got over 44k for both. The mighty Spurs got 20 000 for a midweek replay against Burnley whilst Everton and West Ham played in front of 47 000. Mind you that was the original tie at Goidison and the replay at West Ham.
Talk about strategies for selling more tickets by all means, but don't spout falsehoods to make your point, whatever point it is supposed to be.
Spot on Sir, more fans the better i say i have no problem with the " tourest " fan brings money to the club, and the new fans welcome, I know where i and my family came from as City fans, and all us long standing and suffering fans should be happy the club is growing this way not moaning about it, i can not wait to see a full 60k plus stadium.
The 40% figure is based on the fact that post Etihad, Dennis Tueart came to a supporters club meeting at Northenden, a discussion took place about the new stadium and how big it was going to be, 50000 or 60000. 50000 was the clubs decision, as they felt we would fill it with our then current fan base and demand for match day tickets and season ticket holders. It would be built to enable simple expansion. Somebody asked how the club measured the demand for tickets and Dennis replied simply that records were kept of where sales and enquiry was made, and 36% at that time were made in the South East, he joked, don't tell the United Fans. I have friends and relatives in Surrey, Reigate, Eastbourne and Bexhill, we often travel down there and more often than not I'll see all ages of people wearing City merchandise. The demographic of fans at home is changing dramatically, and away to a certain extent. Like it or not, we are attracting fans from all over the place, and some of those that once went regularly, are again starting to attend. I was looking at the programme last night for the last game at Maine Road against Southampton. There is a fans roll of honour throughout it, containing thousands of fans names. As many are from outside of Manchester, than in it. The club know better than us where and how our fan base is growing, consider the train they run from London now. I remember us playing Arsenal in the cup a few years ago, we won 1 nil late on. There were 9000 blues at the game, unheard of for a midweek night game in London. Like it or lump it, we are becoming the next club to support for younger fans and those around the country and World. Pep is the new draw for many fans, add to that the probable cup and league success he will bring for several years, add some top quality players, more sponsorship, more income, more seats in the stadium. Don't underestimate what the club and hierarchy are doing to enhance the clubs standing, it's a growing project with no end in sight. Massive as the Red cnuts would say....!
Utd had 25,000 empty seats in the Europa League. You example is not very good, and the prices were about £20 in the Stretford End.I was clearly wrong about the boro game as we did sell out. However, i was trying to say we would not sell as many tickets as a number of other clubs if we charged the same rate. My view is we only sold out the boro game because the tickets were sold at something like £15 a head for and £5 for kids as well as boro bringing far more than league game away allocations.
The champions league prices remain reasonably priced because there isn't latent demand. United are fleecing their fans for a second rate europa cup because they can. I don't think we would be able to if we had ended up playing the same teams. As I said before, I am relaxd by this as it keeps the prices down.
Utd had 25,000 empty seats in the Europa League. You example is not very good, and the prices were about £20 in the Stretford End.
You have a point about Cup crowds being smaller than league crowds which are regular sell outs, but how do you get bigger Cup crowds? By increasing the supporter base and the quickest way to do that is to expand the ground so more can go regularly.
I don't really see how anyone can argue that City wouldn't benefit from a bigger ground when you look at our crowds. As I mentioned earlier, the Arsenal game sold out more than 2 months before its due to be played.
Thats all very well and good ... but will they run out of fucking chips on a more regular basis ?Break down a current full house of 55k and keeping the numbers simple. 35k hard core fans, 10k recent ST fans anywhere from 5 to 1 years support. JCLs at one end to others who got season tickets as and when they could with a good portion following expansion.
5k for visitors and another 5k for casuals/corporate who come for a few games per season or just the odd game as day trippers.
If/when we have 70k capacity I'd be happy if we had converted those 10k JCL fans to have 45k hard core, another 10k newbies with 5 to 1 years, 5-7k visitors, 10k casuals/corporate and the rest old school core support who'd been priced out.
Bottom line is to keep proportions similar so the ground isn't same 35k hard core with the extra taken up by an ever changing JCLs and casual /corporate. Need to convert casual fans into hard core.
The club had a policy of keeping as much as possible locally sourced when constructing the etihad campus if this policy is used for the collar site works it will help us fill an expanded stadium
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More blues can then afford to attend games